Stacked Swing?

[Silvertree]

Interesting. I didn't think much of the article when I first read it. Maybe I will give it more of a look.

[fanofsaosin]

Sup guys new to the forum. I hit about 200-300 balls today on the range with this lil new phenom swing theory. I tinkered with it a lil bit and start hitting the ball crispier and farther. I tried the orignal and my back was starting to hurt from the tilting, plus the straightining of the back leg was causing me to lose power. For me i keep the right leg bent still to give me some power. From what i have read a reverse pivot is when weight is on the front leg during the backswing and then shifted to the back leg on the downswing. You will be ok as long as you keep it on that front foot from beginning to end. Another thing i don't like about GD explanation is the downswing and the crushing of the coke can i tried it and i love my balance a couple of times, so i thought to myself, well i already have some of my weight on the front leg, if i were to just rotate back more weight would naturally move forward. I'm no professional but i was hitting my driver about 270-280 and the irons were right on where i wanted to aim. I run into problems when i move weight to the rear foot and then it either screws up the swing totally or i end up scooping. Also i found out that the one plane lawn mower drill works with the swing i have tweaked, this promotes an inside path which was promoted by the tilting, with this lawnmower drill it has help me eliminate this tilting action. Also in one of the vids it says that he was being taught to cock the wrist early, i also the wrist to hinge naturally, as long as u don't let the club get parallel to the target it won't screw up the swing also. I am goin to go out again tomorrow to test this new swing i have frankensteined. LOL oh yeah i did this swing in front of people taking lessons and a PGA pro at the golf course, all i heard was him saying oh he is taking it to far inside and reverse pivoting. Boy the look on his face when i belted a 280 yd drive, and a 170 yd 7 iron.... priceless

[$2 Nassau]

A PGA pro was mocking your swing while giving a lesson to another person?? Pretty rude if you ask me. If I was the person getting the lesson I'd probably ask the Pro to concentrate on me rather than other people out on the range.

[fanofsaosin]

no, he wasn't really paying attention till someone said i was doing everything wrong. I guess it was this kids dad saying it. oh well.. but i do need to tinker more wit this swing.

[Thrdroc]

Personally fanofsaosin , i'm glad you showed that PGA pro up. This game isn't one swing fits all. Everyone should modify a swing that works for them. Some very successful Pro's have very odd swings and they play just fine. I have an odd swing in that i'm a righty and have a natural draw with all of my irons when most rightys have a fade. When I took the one and only lesson i've had (i'm planning on taking somethis summer) the pro immediately said oops we have to fix that fade. I turned and asked him why, it works fine and never gets me in trouble. He was just sort of stunned. I told him before the start of the lesson too, i'm here for Driving and Chipping.

[fanofsaosin]

yeah, def. don't like teachers who try to implement one swing to all their students. Everyone has their on natural swing that feels right to them, the teacher should work around that to make the student a better player. My lil cousins are taking lessons from a pro and he has re tooled their swing and they can't hit a golf ball for the life of them. I beileve this swing is good for those who have weight shift problems which i did.

[$2 Nassau]

The article mentions (I believe it was this article, although I've read about the stack and tilt swing in a few different places lately) many pros tend to over describe the weight shift. I take stuff like that to heart and therefore it created a big sway for me, which is disasterous. When you take the club back I think that your weight will automatically shift back a little anyway (it does for me anyway), so there's really no need to make a big conscious weight shift to your back foot mid swing (again, just my opinion ).

Keeping pressure on the front foot allows me to keep my lower body a little more quiet, and feel the torque created by the shoulder turn.

Take a look at Fred Couples at the top of his swing, his weight is already pretty well established on his front foot. This is an old article but I doubt his swing has changed as Freddie was never one to tinker with his swing.....he keeps it simple. But then again, I'm a little biased when it comes to Fred, in my mind he is one of the best ball-strikers to ever walk this earth.

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...96couples.html

The more I study the swings of the pros the more I feel that they are not shifting that weight to their back foot as much as you might think....or as much as they might say they are. It just happens naturally, so why mess with it??

[iacas]

The article mentions (I believe it was this article, although I've read about the stack and tilt swing in a few different places lately) many pros tend to over describe the weight shift. I take stuff like that to heart and therefore it created a big sway for me, which is disasterous.

I'll agree with that. I think, if anything, this "stacked swing" thing can teach us that the "weight transfer" is not really a big thing. If your move can be described at all as a "sway," you're overdoing it. The natural tilt of your back (away from the target) and the takeaway should be about all the weight you put on your right side, I think. It may feel like a lot, but it's probably 70/30 or 60/40 right/left (for righties).

I used to have a bit too much sway in my swing, and it's one of the things I check when I'm not hitting it well. I pre-set my weight just a little to the right, then just turn and turn. I've not really experimented with the "stacked swing" per se yet - I'll wait for the fad to pass and see if it's still being taught. After all, who's the highest ranked player using it? It ain't any of the top five or so. But, getting back to the original point, all those top players really don't shift their weight around as much as they seem to THINK. Perhaps all those years of seeing amateurs with a true reverse pivot has led them to over-state the importance of amount of weight shift.

[Stand on your line]

I tried the stack and tilt on the course for the first time after one driving range session and broke 70 for the first time in my life. Talk about results. I was stiffing my short irons and hitting my woods (usually my achilles heel) long and straight. I was also hitting almost a club less than my usual distances.

Can't tell you what a turn around this was. Of late I have been struggling to break 80, in fact I have shot some dismal rounds in the high 80s. My confidence and swing was shot. But then I saw the stack and tilt on this site and checked it out. After one session I birdied the last two holes for a 69. Didn't hurt that I had 27 putts, but I hit 13 of 14 fairways and 12 of 18 greens. And my misses were mostly just a yard or two off.

[iacas]

I've seen it said in other places that people trying this "new swing" and proclaiming it to be super-wonderful may simply be short-circuiting their brain and kind of getting rid of a lot of their old bad habits.

To those people, I wonder if they'll still be proclaiming this to be the be-all, end-all swing in three months after their old habits (and some new ones) have started to come back.

[digger21]

To anybody that has tried this swing out, have you noticed a loss in distance at all? I spent awhile on the range trying it out and i really enjoy the swing, however im losing a bit of distance. Not much but enough to notice. I plan to fool around with it a bit more and just test some other power moves in the swing.

[Guest]

I started playing golf last year and was battling a slice most of the year, until I started maintaining a "eyeline" straight at the ball at the top of my backswing. I was having a hard time getting everything back to the ball and hit a lot of fat shots, which I improved by keeping my weight on my front foot and staying centered over the ball. I hadn't really thought of it, but I seemed to have stumbled across a "stacked" type swing.

Unlike the article recommends (I think), however, I cannot keep my right leg straight. It seems to totally screw up my timing. Also, since reading the article, I am hitting a lot of shots thin.

[Cleveland Gunmetal]

I went on vacation this past week and brought my Golf Digest with me. Took another couple looks at this article and after reading it again (and paying more attention to it) I realize that my "old move" was very similar to what this article was saying. Although I don't think I was ever this inside. I've been told that I don't transfer my weight very well and thus at the start of this year I have been trying to shift back more. Well, I went back to my old move with a few variations on the driving range (I still need to make sure I turn and fight an armsy move) and was hitting my mid to short irons very solidly. As good as I've hit it in a year or so. Only problem with this move I hit these low hooking drivers. Off the tee I was all over the place. The move to me seems to steep and too flat to consitantly hit the driver. With the irons I was making great contact with a slight draw but I'm not as convinced off the tee.

This is a good article to read and and I think everyone can take a little something from it. You don't necessarily have to copy the teaching method word for word but I'm going to take bits and pieces of this and try and improve my swing.

[nj21]

I have been hitting poorly for a week using this swing. I figured out that I am getting to far inside so I am hitting the ball more towards the heel of the club. So does anyone know what I should do to get a little more outside on my swing?

Thanks

[mike_pinto]

I have been hitting poorly for a week using this swing. I figured out that I am getting to far inside so I am hitting the ball more towards the heel of the club. So does anyone know what I should do to get a little more outside on my swing?

As a thirty something capper, I would suggest lessons and range time. Be careful not to get sucked in to every Golf Channel tip of the week. Iacas said it once before, there is no one perfect swing for everyone (sorry if I mis quoted, but it was something like that). Find what works for NJ21 and stick to it. Lessons and range time are the only miracle cure for a swing.

BTW, for the folks using the new swing.. Does your back still hurt or did that go away over time? Just curious.. Mike

[Fletch09]

Just did an hour session with the stack and tilt..........don't knock it until you've tried it!

[Cleveland Gunmetal]

Seems there are quite a few trying this swing. As I said earlier, I enjoyed reading it and I think there's something to help many people in there. Problem is that it's difficult changing your entire swing when all you have is a Golf Digest article to refer to.

[nj21]

As a thirty something capper, I would suggest lessons and range time. Be careful not to get sucked in to every Golf Channel tip of the week. Iacas said it once before, there is no one perfect swing for everyone (sorry if I mis quoted, but it was something like that). Find what works for NJ21 and stick to it. Lessons and range time are the only miracle cure for a swing.

But before I was getting great results with it. Just recently I started doing bad with it. I feel more comfortable swinging like this over my old swing.