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Setting wrists early to avoid a flat backswing, its one of the drills my instructor gave me is to miss the wall behind me

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Originally Posted by carpediem4300

Setting wrists early to avoid a flat backswing, its one of the drills my instructor gave me is to miss the wall behind me

I shank when I get too steep.  When I pick the club up too early in the back swing I get steep.  Also when I get too steep the height of my shots increases.  He could have been having you do a drill to get a feel.  You may have the move down already and are overdoing it.

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Quite possibly, I can get the old hands forward and good impact position with short chips but not half swings or fulls swings, which is odd Cant get to the range again until sunday, shame the grass bays are to wet to use :(

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i got half way through the manzella video,...i can get teh chips/pitch shots sorted if i concentrate,...its just the full shots ive not watched yet,..

one thing that struck a chord with me was when brian said "and get yourself bent down",... which lead me to think i was perhaps setting up with to upright a stance,.....i did a few practice swing with what felt like my setup fromt he range and sure enough at "impact" the club was a few inches off the ground and my hands where higher than my waist band,.....although still ahead of the clubhead,

did a few set-up drills i know to get the correct posture and re-did the swings and sure enough the clubhead hit the ground in a vague area of where the ball would be and my hands where either waist high or slightly below

making an effort tog et tot he range tonight to try it out

strange how most thigns can be traced back to poor setup!

:tmade: Driver: TM Superfast 2.0 - 9.5degree - Reg flex
:mizuno: 3 Wood: JPX800 - 16* Exhsar5 Stiff
:mizuno: 3 - PW: MP-67 Cut Muscle back - S300 stiff
:slazenger: Sand Wedge: 54degree, 12degree bounce
:slazenger: Lob Wedge: 60degree 10degree bounce
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Originally Posted by carpediem4300

i got half way through the manzella video,...i can get teh chips/pitch shots sorted if i concentrate,...its just the full shots ive not watched yet,..

one thing that struck a chord with me was when brian said "and get yourself bent down",... which lead me to think i was perhaps setting up with to upright a stance,.....i did a few practice swing with what felt like my setup fromt he range and sure enough at "impact" the club was a few inches off the ground and my hands where higher than my waist band,.....although still ahead of the clubhead,

did a few set-up drills i know to get the correct posture and re-did the swings and sure enough the clubhead hit the ground in a vague area of where the ball would be and my hands where either waist high or slightly below

making an effort tog et tot he range tonight to try it out

strange how most thigns can be traced back to poor setup!

He has web videos called "Never Slice Again" and "Never Hook Again".  Both worth watching two.

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hmm will have to watch them also see what i can learn

hopefully the range will go better tonight once i sort my posture out

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:slazenger: Sand Wedge: 54degree, 12degree bounce
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Just wanted to post that this thread may have saved my golfing days!  I was definitely flipping my hands and not setting the properly.  Last night at the range was fantastic and finally was able to hit the draw I have been aiming for for years!

Tony  


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My range session went well, definately foubd better contact I hit quite a few shanks at the end if the session i think due to fatigue and hitting to many balls haha

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:slazenger: Sand Wedge: 54degree, 12degree bounce
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Originally Posted by carpediem4300

My range session went well, definately foubd better contact

I hit quite a few shanks at the end if the session i think due to fatigue and hitting to many balls haha

I shanked a bunch of them too when I started on Manzella's drill.  Took me awhile before I could do that drill and keep my angle of attack shallow.

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Well i addressed my posture, tempo, and weight transfer to my backfoot as i think i was reverse puvoting slightly I think tiredness was a factor as i hit 240 balls lol, more than i normaly would, Deffo compressing the ball better though,..

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:slazenger: Sand Wedge: 54degree, 12degree bounce
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Originally Posted by carpediem4300

Well i addressed my posture, tempo, and weight transfer to my backfoot as i think i was reverse puvoting slightly

I think tiredness was a factor as i hit 240 balls lol, more than i normaly would,

Deffo compressing the ball better though,..

My god.  That's a lot of balls.

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Originally Posted by Mr3Wiggle

My god.  That's a lot of balls.

That's a typical Monday or Tuesday!

Love having free range balls and 3 hours of hitting time.

Tony  


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Originally Posted by Mr3Wiggle

My god.  That's a lot of balls.

indeed,

i ache literally all over today in places i didnt know i have,...

I would normaly only hit 120 maximum, but as i was trying to groove a feeling i went a bit OTT,....think next time ill split it into two session of 120 one day after the other so im not getting fatigued or letting my mind wonder,....

on a plus note I can now set my clubface square, stance close, and hit s nice draw with the irons, and fairway woods,......doesnt work with the driver though haha

:tmade: Driver: TM Superfast 2.0 - 9.5degree - Reg flex
:mizuno: 3 Wood: JPX800 - 16* Exhsar5 Stiff
:mizuno: 3 - PW: MP-67 Cut Muscle back - S300 stiff
:slazenger: Sand Wedge: 54degree, 12degree bounce
:slazenger: Lob Wedge: 60degree 10degree bounce
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Originally Posted by carpediem4300

indeed,

i ache literally all over today in places i didnt know i have,...

I would normaly only hit 120 maximum, but as i was trying to groove a feeling i went a bit OTT,....think next time ill split it into two session of 120 one day after the other so im not getting fatigued or letting my mind wonder,....

on a plus note I can now set my clubface square, stance close, and hit s nice draw with the irons, and fairway woods,......doesnt work with the driver though haha

My swing changes always creep their way up through my set.  I'm usually good with the 6 iron on down, but long irons and woods are garbage for awhile.  They eventually come around for me though.

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3H:  Callaway Razr X, 4H:  Callaway Razr X
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yeah just guess im trying to cram it in all to quick,

doesnt help its still to wet round here to use the grass bays so i can get a true feeling for the compression rather than the "jumpy" feeling i get off the matts

:tmade: Driver: TM Superfast 2.0 - 9.5degree - Reg flex
:mizuno: 3 Wood: JPX800 - 16* Exhsar5 Stiff
:mizuno: 3 - PW: MP-67 Cut Muscle back - S300 stiff
:slazenger: Sand Wedge: 54degree, 12degree bounce
:slazenger: Lob Wedge: 60degree 10degree bounce
:ping: Putter: Karsten 1959 Anser 2 Toe weighted
:mizuno: Bag - Cart Style

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