At Ryder Cup, can Captain give advice to player?

[joekelly]

Was watching Ryder Cup from '97, Valderama, on TV and saw Seve walk up to one of his men and offer a comment apparently on how to play the next shot.  Heretofore i thought it was 'you and your caddy' and no one else. Must be in these team events a new set of Rules kick in.

[Mordan]

A quick google of "rules of golf advice captain" turns up this link:

http://www.randa.org/en/Rules-and-Amateur-Status/Guidance-on-Running-a-Competition.aspx?chapter=1§ion;=14

No new rules, just a condition of competition.

[Fourputt]

Originally Posted by joekelly

Was watching Ryder Cup from '97, Valderama, on TV and saw Seve walk up to one of his men and offer a comment apparently on how to play the next shot.  Heretofore i thought it was 'you and your caddy' and no one else. Must be in these team events a new set of Rules kick in.

In a team match the committee may appoint one person (possibly a coach or the team captain) who is allowed to give advice to his players.  They also have the right to not allow such assistance.  I believe that in the Ryder Cup it is allowed.

[Dormie1360]

In the Ryder Cup the captain may give advice, but not the assistants.  This  came up on one of the recent Ryder cups when it was thought that Jose Maria Olazabal (an assistant then) may have said something to a player that he shouldn't have.  Turned out he hadn't.

I believe they call the conditions of competition document "Captains Choice" at the Ryder.

[turtleback]

Originally Posted by Dormie1360

In the Ryder Cup the captain may give advice, but not the assistants.  This  came up on one of the recent Ryder cups when it was thought that Jose Maria Olazabal (an assistant then) may have said something to a player that he shouldn't have.  Turned out he hadn't.

I believe they call the conditions of competition document "Captains Choice" at the Ryder.

Don't they allow the captain to delegate the advice-giving ability to one of his assistants.  But then, of course, the captain wouldn't be able to give advice?

Or maybe I'm thinking of the President's Cup?

Or maybe I'm just dreaming something up?  LOL

[Dormie1360]

Don't know.

[Fourputt]

Originally Posted by turtleback

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dormie1360

In the Ryder Cup the captain may give advice, but not the assistants.  This  came up on one of the recent Ryder cups when it was thought that Jose Maria Olazabal (an assistant then) may have said something to a player that he shouldn't have.  Turned out he hadn't.

I believe they call the conditions of competition document "Captains Choice" at the Ryder.

Don't they allow the captain to delegate the advice-giving ability to one of his assistants.  But then, of course, the captain wouldn't be able to give advice?

Or maybe I'm thinking of the President's Cup?

Or maybe I'm just dreaming something up?  LOL

Whoever is appointed has to be approved by the committee and is only allowed to act as the committee instructs.

This is the note to Rule 8:

Note: The Committee may, in the conditions of a team competition (Rule 33-1), permit each team to appoint one person who may give advice (including pointing out a line for putting) to members of that team. The Committee may establish conditions relating to the appointment and permitted conduct of that person, who must be identified to the Committee before giving advice.