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  1. 1. What do you use? 2-Iron or Hybrid?

    • Ya I use a hybrid... So What?
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I have finally made the switch from my MP-14 butter knife to the titleist 585.H
This thing is beautiful and the technology is great. Slices through the rough with a problem..

What are yall using in the bag. Made the switch yet?

In my bag todayâ¦.
Driver:
3 Wood:
Hybrid:
3-PW: Wedges: Putter: Ball:


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Never even really considered a 2-iron...it was either a 3 and 5-wood or a hybrid. Like the hybrid though!

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I have only hit a hybrid one time and i hit it really well. I still dont see the need for one in my bag though. I really do not miss hit my long irons, they might not be on target but they goes the distance I expect out of them 90% of the time.

Driver: 9.5* SQ Sumo Stiff
3W: 15* SQ Stiff
Irons: 3-PW R7 Stiff Flex
GW: X Tour Vintage 52 11 bounce
SW: X Tour Vintage 56 13 bounceLW: X Tour Vintage 60 8 BouncePutter: Monza CorzaBall: HX Tour 56


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Still hitting a 3 iron here. I can't get a 1 and 2 iron for my set, or I would - and I'd get rid of my fairway woods, as well. Hybrids only cause me un-necessary grief.
"Shouldn't you be going faster? I mean, you're doing 40 in a 65..."

Driver: Burner TP 9.5*
3 Wood: 906F2 15*
2I: Eye 23I-PW: 3100 I/HWedges: Vokey Spin-Milled 56*06, MP-R 52*07/60*05Putter: Victoria IIBall: Pro V1xCheck out my new blog: Thousand Yard DriveHome Course: Kenton County...

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I still hit a 3 iron also, I was only really talking about a 2 or a 1 iron

In my bag todayâ¦.
Driver:
3 Wood:
Hybrid:
3-PW: Wedges: Putter: Ball:


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I'm a 4 handicap and I play with hybrids...no reason that higher handicaps shouldn't as well. My uncle and I were discussing this weekend the lost art of the 1 iron and in reality, the old 1 and 2 irons were really the same loft as today's 3 and 4 irons. So, essentially, you get your set built to those specs and then carry the hybrid. Take out the 2 and 3, get a hybrid and an extra wedge to fill any gaps and you will save a bunch of strokes. Besides, how many times do you really get a 215 yard shot and pull it off compared to all the 125 yard and in shots?

Driver: 9.5 905R 757 Speeder X stiff
3 Wood: 13.0 Sonartec GS Tour Red Ice 70X
Hybrid: 17.0 Sonartec MD Stiff UST IROD
Irons: 690cb 4-PW w/Rifle 6.0
Wedges: Cleveland 900 Series Gunmetal 50, 54, 60Putter: Scotty Cameron Studio Newport 370g head


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precisely. If the worlds best are doing it, shouldnt that give the amateur ranks a hint that maybe it works? And if you dont care about what the pros hit or not, then if you score better with one then maybe you should get one and trade in the ole blade

In my bag todayâ¦.
Driver:
3 Wood:
Hybrid:
3-PW: Wedges: Putter: Ball:


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The next time I hit one in the rough, I will consider putting a hybrid in my bag.

INTHE BAG(today)
Driver: Speedline 10 10.5deg
Fairway woods: speedline 3w
Putter:Master grig

Irons: A2 OS

SandWedge 1200GE

Balls: Soft Feel

Bag: Great Divider

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The next time I hit one in the rough, I will consider putting a hybrid in my bag.

How long will that be? 10 seconds from impact on your first tee shot?

"Shouldn't you be going faster? I mean, you're doing 40 in a 65..."

Driver: Burner TP 9.5*
3 Wood: 906F2 15*
2I: Eye 23I-PW: 3100 I/HWedges: Vokey Spin-Milled 56*06, MP-R 52*07/60*05Putter: Victoria IIBall: Pro V1xCheck out my new blog: Thousand Yard DriveHome Course: Kenton County...

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I'll be making the official switch shortly. My 21 degree 585H arrives Monday.

I find a hybrid much easier to hit and more versatile than a 2 or 3 iron. That said, one of my favorite shots ever was sticking a 2-iron within 5 feet from about 195 into the wind.

Driver:Titleist 905T 10.5, Aldila NV 65S
Fairway: Titleist 906f2 18, Aldila NV 75S
Hybrid: Titleist 585H 21, Aldila NV85S
Irons: Titleist 735, DG R300
Wedges: Titleist Vokey 52, 56, 60 DG S200Putter: Odyssey White Hot Tour #8


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precisely. If the worlds best are doing it, shouldnt that give the amateur ranks a hint that maybe it works? And if you dont care about what the pros hit or not, then if you score better with one then maybe you should get one and trade in the ole blade

Can someone confirm the following for me? I believe the pros are using hybrids to replace fairway woods - the folks who might otherwise have put a 7-Wood (Vijay used to play with either a 7W or a 9W, once upon a time) in their bag are placing a hybrid with the right loft instead. I don't think they're replacing the 3-Iron, and some are still carrying 2-Irons. Granted, most of us should have been replacing some irons with woods or hybrids a while ago, so we're still using hybrids for what that.

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Driver:  Titleist 915D2.  4-wood:  Titleist 917F2.  Titleist TS2 19 degree hybrid.  Tour Edge Exotics C723 21 degree hybrid.  Irons 5-U, Ping G400.  Wedges negotiable (currently 54 degree Cleveland, 58 degree Titleist) Edel putter. 

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I am going to get the Cobra Baffler sometime in the next few weeks, but I'm probably going to get the 4 iron replacement not the 2 iron replacement.
In My Bag:
Driver: Cobra F Speed 10.5°, Aldila NV 55g Regular
3 Wood: Cobra F Speed 15°, Aldila NV 55g Regular
Irons: Cobra 2300 I/M 3-PW
Wedge: Cobra M 54°Putter: Yes! SophiaBall: TaylorMade TP Red

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Can someone confirm the following for me?

Not many carry 2-irons, no. Tiger replaced his 2-iron (for the most part) with the 5W.

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I'm a 4 handicap and I play with hybrids...no reason that higher handicaps shouldn't as well. My uncle and I were discussing this weekend the lost art of the 1 iron and in reality, the old 1 and 2 irons were really the same loft as today's 3 and 4 irons. So, essentially, you get your set built to those specs and then carry the hybrid. Take out the 2 and 3, get a hybrid and an extra wedge to fill any gaps and you will save a bunch of strokes. Besides, how many times do you really get a 215 yard shot and pull it off compared to all the 125 yard and in shots?

That is SO true... I cant believe that any 10, 20 + handicap would even consider carrying a long iron (2 iron especially!) rather than a hybrid.

I carry a 22* and 25* hybrid for 220 and 205 respectively... better ball flight, more spin, better workability, and i can fill my distance gaps perfectly... I cant imagine not hitting what works best. Why make the game harder than it is?

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I use a hybrid over a three iron just because the hybrid goes much much higher and lands softer.

In My Bag :

Driver : HiBore XL
3 Wood : Launcher Gold
Hybrid : 3i Halo 22*Irons : CG4 4-PWWedges : 588 DSG RTG 52* CG11 56* / 60*Putter : GM Exchange2 #4Ball : Z-URS


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this thread is a bit confusing.....nobody really uses 1 or 2 iron these days....the poll doesn't have any option for "NO I do not use a hybrid but instead a fairway wood"...2 iron is probably similar to a weak 5 wood...having said that I just have never liked the set up of any of the hybrids I have previously tried....TM rescue/TP, ping g5, 585H, mizuno clk......I feel much more comfortable w/5 wood...as for the 3 iron question so far it feels just as good as any hybrid with similar lofts...I generally hit the ball high so don't need the CG to be moved back as in the hybrids

In My Bag

Taylormade Burner 09 TP 9.5 Fujikura REAX 65 S
Cleveland Launcher 2009 15 UST V2 75 S
Cleveland Launcher Steel 19 UST V2 75 STitleist 585 H 21 Aldila VS Proto STaylormade R7 TP 4-PW DG S300 StiffTaylormade TP Satin 54 and 58Scotty Cameron Studio Style Newport 2Taylormade TP...


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Count me in the I-can't-hit-hybrid-clubs group. Still trying to work the damn Baffler like I want

Driver: 454 Comp R-flex 45g, 10.5*
Hybrid: Baffler 3I 20*
4i-GW: 3100 I/H
Wedges: 56* 60* Vokeys
Putter: White Hot XG #1


Posted
I have the Adams Idea A2 set that came with the 3 and 4 hybrid. Love them! I couldn't find a 3 wood I liked so I got the 1 and 2 hybrids too! Love them too! Nice consistent look, feel and performance all the way down the line.

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