Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Pblock45

SeeMore Vs Bettinardi

34 posts in this topic

So when I'm in between two clubs and I have money burning a whole in my pocket for a new one I come to The sand trap. I am between a Seemore mFGP cs, Or a Bettinardi studio stock #12. Im likeing the center stright shafts on both. I love all the great reviews on Seemore. I have talked to there customer service and they are top notch. I look at that Bettinardi and it is just one beautiful putter. So I guess its function vs beauty but obviously I want both. So please give help. Oh I live in South Dakota where we do not have any dealers of both brands.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Want to get rid of this advertisement? Sign up (or log in) today! It's free!

What help can you be given?

You have to decide on the one you want.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

someone with experiance with both would help some first hand experiance that I cannot get because of my geographical location.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by Pblock45

someone with experiance with both would help some first hand experiance that I cannot get because of my geographical location.

IT makes no difference.

All quality putters are fine.

It comes down to which one you like te look of.

They are different putters.

Someone else's personal preference can't influence you.

It's like colour choice on a car.

There are no pros and no cons for either.

No putter that costs $90 or more is worse than one that is $300 plus and no $300 putter is a better putter than one that costs $90.

It comes down to your own preference.

The only thing to consider might be resale value - and ebay records can assist there. :-)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by Shorty

It comes down to which one you like te look of.

I don't agree.

It comes down to the putter that you can:

a) aim properly

b) control speed best

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Originally Posted by iacas

I don't agree.

It comes down to the putter that you can:

a) aim properly

b) control speed best

I agree with the above.

The putters you are choosing are similar in terms of CS and no offset (I'm also one of those that avoids offset and forward pressing - SeeMore recommends no forward press with their putters) The Bett is 358g in the head while the SeeMore is 340g. If you are going 34 inches or less, if it's a push, I'm more likely to say go with the Bett for the heavier weight. At 34.5 + inches, I think the SeeMore is fine, but I use a SeeMore/Pat O'Brien setup -- a more upright stance which means a longer putter at 35 inches - it was .5 inches longer than what I used before the SeeMore.

I played an mFGP for several years. I aimed it well, just slightly left. You can test this with a SeeMore Triangulator. If you order a SeeMore, ask the guys to thrown one in the box - no charge. They usually do when asked. If you don't aim it straight, at least you will know your tendency.

They've changed the puttter for the better, I think. The new model rolls better with slightly less loft and the head was redesigned recently. It is not a heavy putter at 340g. You might ask them about a counterbalance weight to add overall weight to the putter. I haven't experienced a problem with adding weight at the top as to club head feel.

I like the SeeMore RST System - it works if you use the SeeMore setup and it gives you confidence.

As to the Bett, they are quality, I've owned a few and I like the BB-43 the best - which was a CS Anser style. The Stock 12 has a deeper flange - it depends on whether you like the look. The Bett will offer a tad more forgiveness - but if you are a good putter, you don't need much forgiveness. The face remains square to the arc.

I like a SeeMore - the mFGP is a great feeling putter  - but I'd ask the guys what happens if you demo it, treat it gently, and what they can do for you about another model if it doesn't work out. I mean, it's $300. Same thing with Bett - ask.

If you get the SeeMore, ask them to throw in Pat's DVD  - lol. Get all the freebies you can! But if they don't throw it in - it's only $20.

I play an Edel now (but still use Pat's SeeMore method of putting after going back and forth with Utley - I find Pat's method a bit more consistent - but using Utley for a while actually helped) - I mean, it's tough to beat a putter where everything is custom and it is set up so you aim straight... But good luck in your choice!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I have 20 putters. I can tell you the ones I buaght for the looks are only good looking putters. I love blade putters but never have found one I play well. I have a center shafted see more putter and loved the look but don't game it well. the 2 putters I play the best are the ones I tested before buying them, yes only 2 out of 20putters that I play well, and when I started seeing how these 2 putters helped me I was really put down because I didn't like the look of them at all. but going from 40 something puts to 30 something puts per round I would say that looks aren't everything. if you care to know what the putters are the ping nome and the taylormade ghost ,mallet putters with bent shafts.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by iacas

I don't agree.

It comes down to the putter that you can:

a) aim properly

b) control speed best

I should have explained myself better.

I have had putters that I LOVE the look of, but much too light for me.

A Bettinardi anser style was one of them.

I had another Bettinardi mallet that I didn't really like the look of but it was a tad too heavy.

I had another Bettinardi mallet that was just right, but I didn't like the look of it.

So...three Bettinardis that  I bought and sold.

If the anser style had been 340 or 350 g I would still be using it.

What I basically mean by "the look" is the look and feel.

To the OP - there is nothing worse than a putter that is too light.

Find out what weight suits you and pretty much go from there.

You might also like to find out how the SeeMore finish holds up.

I had a Guerin Rife in black that may have been spray painted. It wasn't PVD and the cover wore it off. Absolute junk.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I owned the mFGP for 3 years and it still looked new when sold.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Lots of good stuff above ! I think you guys helped . When Someone is trying to lower there number of putts It comes down to the most function. I know the bett is a good looker and feels good but those two things don't sink putts . I think ill go with the seemore they said they would throw in a DVD and shirt ! He said because I'm in the military . Let you guys know it will probaly be the mfgp when the release the again 1 sept
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Lots of good stuff above ! I think you guys helped . When Someone is trying to lower there number of putts It comes down to the most function. I know the bett is a good looker and feels good but those two things don't sink putts . I think ill go with the seemore they said they would throw in a DVD and shirt ! He said because I'm in the military . Let you guys know it will probaly be the mfgp when the release the again 1 sept

I think the seemore will give me a great platform to start from the more I can get out of the putter the better . But man I think there kinda fugly

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nah, good looking putter with a built in training aid. Talk to them about the type of grip that would be best for you
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Well lets talk grips real fast I hope no one mindes. I have really been thinking of jumping on the superstroke band wagon. I looked at the mid slim 2.0 seemed to be the right fit. I wear a med-L glove. ANyone have any experiance with these?good or bad? I do like how it doesnt taper down. I have been trying to hold the grip in my fingers more maybe this grip will hurt or help that? I was even thinking Ultra slim 1.0. Thanks eveyone for commenting Oh and to comment on an earlier post I will be playing a 35" putter I have to stand more upright from an injury on my lower back while working on Aircraft.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by Pblock45

Well lets talk grips real fast I hope no one mindes. I have really been thinking of jumping on the superstroke band wagon. I looked at the mid slim 2.0 seemed to be the right fit. I wear a med-L glove. ANyone have any experiance with these?good or bad? I do like how it doesnt taper down. I have been trying to hold the grip in my fingers more maybe this grip will hurt or help that? I was even thinking Ultra slim 1.0. Thanks eveyone for commenting

My son uses the mid slim 2.0 on his Edel. He is a very good golfer. I tried it - liked it. Does what it is supposed to do. But I think you'd need a counterbalance weight to add some heft to your putter. I advised him of the same. But I like to experiment. I may try it eventually.

The only issue is that a superstroke may interfere with the Pat O'Brien grip I use, which puts the thick, meaty palm of your palm (the pinkie side) on the upper part of the grip to stabilize it. Pat and Utley like a thin grip - but Utley puts the grip through the lifeline of his palm - I tried both this summer and eventually returned to Pat's grip.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I am right handed I play with my left index finger over my right pinky. I need a lesson for sure. In south dakota you can only go to a pro they dont have SPI schools here. Do you think the mid will block that . IM not familiar with counterbalance weights what do do you mean by that. DO you suggest it because its a 340 head with a little bit heavier grip.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by Pblock45

I am right handed I play with my left index finger over my right pinky. I need a lesson for sure. In south dakota you can only go to a pro they dont have SPI schools here. Do you think the mid will block that . IM not familiar with counterbalance weights what do do you mean by that. DO you suggest it because its a 340 head with a little bit heavier grip.

If they are sending you Pat's DVD, take a look at it. He tries to take your right hand out of the stroke. It's a clever grip that helps eliminate some issues.

As to your question, the Superstroke is a larger diameter grip - it will separate fingers and connections.

CB Weights? I don't have the time. But google balance certified weights or search counterbalance on the forum and see what happens. Some people think CB weights help steady the hands in putting, add to MOI and/or raise the balance point of a club.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

When you get a chance what Size would be you reccomend for the seemore putter ? at 340. You just slide these under the grip befor you put it on ?
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • 2016 TST Partners

    GAME Golf
    PING Golf
    Lowest Score Wins
  • Posts

    • Lessons, depending on your arrangement with your home course, can be a much better way to make money than if you just work in the shop.  In the shop I would imagine you're not making much more than $15 an hour, even as a professional, assuming that you aren't salaried to run the golf operation for a city. Even if you charged a relatively cheap rate of $50 an hour for lessons, and the course took half of your inexpensive fee, you would be making $10 more an hour than you would otherwise and it might be more enjoyable that pro shop work for you. Playing lessons could be even more lucrative depending on your rates, and you can even play some golf yourself (either playing with the player or demonstrating a shot, for example).  Youth programs can be highly profitable if that's something you're interested in. A local course with two PGA professionals has a weekly group lesson for junior golfers at $20 per person. On the days that this program is running they easily have 30-40 kids ($600-800) out there working on chipping and putting (and then the kids go out to walk nine holes afterwords). Depending on how your course operates and how busy it is this is something you could look into organizing. Put up flyers both on the course and in public areas where you are allowed to post things to get the word out. If you are somewhat tech and business inclined it might be a good idea to look into starting up a small business of your own selling golf apparel and equipment. Take advantage of your PGA membership and start up accounts with the major brands such as Titleist, PING, Taylormade, Scotty Cameron (they kind of do their stuff separate from Titleist) and put up a storefront on your own website. Squarespace is one web-hosting company I know of that does an excellent job of making it easy for you to put together what you want. Nearly everything in most golf shops is marked up at keystone pricing or higher, so there is definitely profit to be made if you can get some web traffic (and it never hurts to have it up for people to stumble upon).  Look up public courses in your area and figure out who the person in charge of contracting out the golf courses is. The title in my city is the "Golf Operations Manager", but this varies from city to city. Get to know this person and learn when the management contracts for various courses expire so you can put your bid in to run one of the courses on behalf of the city. This is where you'd likely end up making the most money, but it would be the most administrative of the options. You would likely be responsible for hiring, firing, reports, and other day to day tasks but the big advantage is that the city, in most cases, will allow you to use the pro shop to sell your own merchandise. This becomes huge since then the profits (or at least a large portion of them) from every pro shop sale goes into your pocket, though it does come with the added work of managing inventory and negotiating terms with the city. This is, though, by far the most lucrative option that would be somewhat easily (with enough background work and a good proposal/interview) attainable. One other thing, along the lines of the previous point, that you could do is see if there are any professionals that are contracted to run two golf courses through the city. My city currently works this way, but the professional has to subcontract the second course to another PGA professional in order to manage everything smoothly. As a result of this the professional at the course I work for (the subcontracted professional) is now a near shoe-in to win the bid to manage the golf course he's been running when the city contract becomes available this January, just because he has been running the show there for the last four years. Continuing to excel at your current position at the golf course while networking and getting to know your customers (a large factor for the aforementioned pro is that he has developed close ties with the clientele and has increased revenue as a result) is something that will be viewed favorably if you later put in a bid to manage the course.
    • It took me two years to get from a 24 handicap (my starting point) to about a 6-8 handicap when I started playing seriously. It then took me another two years to get from about a 7 to a 2. In the last year I had a big jump that got me from the 2 handicap to my current +1.5, which I would consider to be the largest leap I've ever made (which is somewhat funny, considering I've probably practiced the least in the last year as compared to previous years). It just kind of clicked for me that it's okay to expect to make birdies, whereas before I felt like I never could make any.
    • Thanks for the suggestions. I will certainly think about my wrists / forearms next time I putt or practice putting, and the Stan Utley book looks good, seems to get good reviews on this site and others so will definitely check it out. Can anyone recommend a good video tutorial? Verbal advice is useful but nothing beats seeing it for yourself. I'm careful of just googling this kind of thing, there's a whole load of info out there and I've got no way of knowing what's good and what's crap.
    • I was finally able to get a decent bag. After spending the past couple years using a $40 bag that was a pain to deal with, I've upgraded to a Sun Mountain C130 cart bag. 70% of the time I walk with my 3.5+ cart, so I am looking for some suggestions on ideal club arrangement. I bought the tour bag kit to get the bag a bit more upright, but I wonder if there is an arrangement that would be best when I am using the push cart. Right now I have been leaving the clubs in the powered cart arrangement, but it isn't quite as nice as I think it could be. any thoughts?
  • TST Blog Entries

  • Images

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. JLeeWildcat9
      JLeeWildcat9
      (30 years old)
    2. Ping Man
      Ping Man
      (52 years old)
  • Blog Entries