Jump to content
IGNORED

Technology - Golf Balls versus The Clubs Themselves


iacas
Note: This thread is 3654 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Compared to muscle back irons of the 60's-80's, lofts are stronger, soles have more bounce and camber, hosels are shorter and heads are slightly bigger.

Same kind of thing with cavity back irons, forged or cast, from the 80's/90's.

I collect old lefty Hogan irons.  Today's irons look huge compared to the 1970 Hogan One Plus and 1972 Apex I own.

Joe Paradiso

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I know technology definitely improves, but it seems like from a distance stand point, woods have changed more. I have several friends that use Ping Eye 2s and it doesn't seem to hurt their game any. On the other hand, I had one friend who was using a old callaway big Bertha (2000) version and switched to new 460cc to gain like 50 yards.
Link to comment
Share on other sites


I think it's a combination of both. And I think USGA regulations play a significant role here as well.

I think the limits placed on balls are actually a little stronger than those placed on clubs, so in recent decades there is going to be more improvement from clubs.  The club face can't really get any more efficient, but there are still things they can do with newer materials that make them lighter and allow higher swing speeds.

With balls, the initial velocity test prevents some improvements, but they can still do things that cause different trajectories and spin to get more distance for many of us.  And lower compression balls are increasing distance for those of us with swing speeds below where they actually test at.  For the bigger hitters though, the overall distance standard is a harder limit to get around, preventing improvements no matter what the technology involved.  There has been an overall distance standard since 1984, and an initial velocity limit since 1942. They didn't put a .83 COR limit on the club face until 2002 (the current test for "characteristic time" during which the ball remains in contact with the face accomplishes much the same thing).

So I think for the top players, more of the improvement has been in the clubs. For more average joes swinging 80 mph, it may be as much in the balls.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I collect old lefty Hogan irons.  Today's irons look huge compared to the 1970 Hogan One Plus and 1972 Apex I own.

A new golfer and I were on a par 3 tee box one time (mostly messing around) and talking about his game, or lack thereof.

He had a very old set of blade irons that his uncle had given him. I asked him if I could hit one of them, fully intending to show him that his irons were far inferior to mine. I hit one shot and it sailed right over the top of the flag stick and landed on the back of the green. I had figured there wasn't a chance in the world I could hit that little thing worth a crap.

An anomaly I'm sure but instead of making fun of his irons I simply handed it back to him without saying a word. ;-)

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Note: This thread is 3654 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.
  • Posts

    • I was laid off two months ago. Good severance, a 90 day layoff announcement regulation the company wanted to avoid so technically I'm still on the payroll for a few weeks, and a bunch of banked PTO, so I'm in a great spot and working on a startup idea I've been batting around with my brother for a while. That means I've got time to get to the gym! I'm at like 60-75 minutes 5x a week of strength training, and either a run or a bunch of time playing soccer or tennis with my daughter on the weekends. Stronger than I've been in forever. Up ~5 pounds of (noticeable!) muscle!
    • Do you have examples of exceptional scores versus their established handicap indexes?
    • Day 539, April 23, 2024 Mirror work once again. When I get back to swings, I'll just do it A. LOT.
    • A bit of background. The Southern California Golf Association (SCGA) runs an annual event known as "Team Play." It is a wildly popular match play competition where Men's Clubs across the region put together teams of 20+ golfers together to compete against other clubs in a 16 vs. 16 match. In any given year, approximately 80-100 clubs will participate. Each club is grouped into "pods" of 4, and will play 6 total matches - one home and one away match against the other 3 clubs. The winning club from each pod advances to the Team Play Playoffs - a single elimination format - until a winner is crowned.  Antelope Valley Country Club just advanced to the championship match for the 3rd consecutive year. They won the championship in both 2022 and 2023.  Based on my review of the match history from the past 3 years (linked below), they have won 21 consecutive team matches. Keep in mind, these are handicapped matches, so this is not just a case where a group of sticks bands together to dominate the poor amateurs other SoCal clubs. Even if these guys are grinders who never quit, play their best under pressure and routinely putt the lights out, the law of averages still say that a streak of that nature is mathematically impossible.  Is there any plausible explanation beyond institutionalized sandbagging throughout the club? Team Play Page
    • Day 3- Practiced putting for 20 minutes. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...