From a block to a duck hook?

[Ernest Jones]

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Originally Posted by Golfingdad

I've tried to explain this (well, the exact opposite) to my dad on numerous occasions, with very little luck.  He can't figure out how he can hit a big ugly pull slice and then drill one straight and solid but 30 yards left of everything.  I try to tell him it's just a small variation in the clubface to go along with his MASSIVE over the top leftward swing.

yeah, isnt it funny how we cant wrap our heads around something sometimes?  and then when you finally get it, its all like

for me, the easiest and most concise way to think it through is "the ball starts approx where the face is pointing, and then curves away from the path".  easy peasy.

Agreed. That simply phrase has made everything so much easier to understand. Just another great example of how good this site is at removing the mysteries.

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Originally Posted by techrx

I've had spells of doing the exact same thing. My problem was with my release. The inside to out swing is fine as long as you release the club down (towards the ground) instead of out (away from your body). It's amazing how much that small change affects the angle of the club face at impact. Good luck

im sorry but this really doesnt seem to make any sense?

Smells a bit like a feel thing for the most part, however "releasing away from your body" sounds like holding off the rate of closure which would likely result in a face that tends to be a tad open through impact which is heading right all day long if it's not left of the path. Personally I gave up any ideas of controlling my release and am just trying to get my grip to be consistent and to try to keep my path a little closer to neutral (but still in-to-out) to avoid any wild dispersions. I still hit more blocks and hooks than I'd like but focusing on grip and path seems to be the most efficient way to work on this.

YMMV.

[saevel25]

Smells a bit like a feel thing for the most part, however "releasing away from your body" sounds like holding off the rate of closure which would likely result in a face that tends to be a tad open through impact which is heading right all day long if it's not left of the path. Personally I gave up any ideas of controlling my release and am just trying to get my grip to be consistent and to try to keep my path a little closer to neutral (but still in-to-out) to avoid any wild dispersions. I still hit more blocks and hooks than I'd like but focusing on grip and path seems to be the most efficient way to work on this.

YMMV.

Yep. Same here. When I am striking the ball well I am feeling a turn. If I have to feel my rate of closure speed up or slow down, it is because something went wrong in the swing.

[techrx]

yeah, isnt it funny how we cant wrap our heads around something sometimes?  and then when you finally get it, its all like for me, the easiest and most concise way to think it through is "the ball starts approx where the face is pointing, and then curves away from the path".  easy peasy. im sorry but this really doesnt seem to make any sense?

Makes sense to me but maybe it is just something I'm feeling and not something you can see. Either way the end result is keeping your hands close to your body and shutting the face down instead of leaving it open and hitting a block.

[colin007]

Makes sense to me but maybe it is just something I'm feeling and not something you can see. Either way the end result is keeping your hands close to your body and shutting the face down instead of leaving it open and hitting a block.

yeah, must be a feel thing.  for me, saying "keep the hands close to the body" would mean sending the path left too soon, and then slamming the face down + a left path would be a pull, pull hook, or a pull slice.

[carpediem4300]

Played through 16 holes yesterday with the thought if sticking with the swing changes no matter what and was only 6+, got to the last two holes and dropped a further 10 shots lol love this game!!! Techrx - i get what u mean!! My pre-swing is to fire hips forward, keeps arms and hands close, on the final route into impact making a definate feel for "square face impact" like hammering a nail (theres a drill for that isnt there?) and i tell you what i nailed some of the nicest iron tee shots ive ever hit!!! 6 iron to centre green on a par 3 that was 181yards? I dont do that often!!! Colin - agree it felt like that to me but if you get the correct hip bump and turn the the hands being close dont go left, more straight or in-to-out......keeping the hands further away causes them to come further left ironically My game is definately coming back to me, i just struggle with seinging to hard at the minute, lose all my sequencing