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Is there enough difference in these balls to justify the cost for a 14ish handicap in your opinion?
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Is there enough difference in these balls to justify the cost for a 14ish handicap in your opinion?


No. The NXT Tour likely has the worst price to performance ratio you're going to find. Bridgestone e5 is a much safer bet.

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Ok thanks. The reason I ask is that I love the NXT Tours but I also find other Titleist balls on the course that are "no name" and they seem to be very similar to the NXT Tours.
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NXT Tour is my favorite ball.  DT SOLO, not so much.   I have swing speed of around 90 and NXT Tour and NXT Tour S gives me the most distance.   Higher ball trajectory than Pro V1s.   Good feel.   YMMV.

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NXT Tour is my favorite ball.  DT SOLO, not so much.   I have swing speed of around 90 and NXT Tour and NXT Tour S gives me the most distance.   Higher ball trajectory than Pro V1s.   Good feel.   YMMV.

Yeah they just fit me. Well crap, they are so dang expensive compared to what people say they should be priced. Oh well, I'll just pony up.

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How does the used ball market work? Aren't you worried about getting water logged balls or ruined balls they just repaint?
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How does the used ball market work? Aren't you worried about getting water logged balls or ruined balls they just repaint?

I use lostgolfballs.com and haven't had any issues.  I go for the top quality (AAAAA) or second quality (AAAA) and have been doing this for years now. The only water-logged balls I ever tried to use were when I was a kid and we cleared out a pond on a course that had never been cleared. I would think it would take years of exposure to waterlog a golf ball.

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Some think the used balls aren't as good as new ones. I have seen no performance difference. YMMV.


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Thanks for the tip. Why don't most people do that?

Because used balls are someone else's trash or balls that are meant to die off in the woods/water/rough.

I would assume that most of us do not dig through our neighbors trash for food, why do it in the game we enjoy?

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That is my question. Poster above said they are just as good and you say they are trash. What is it?
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That is my question. Poster above said they are just as good and you say they are trash. What is it?

opinions, I say those that swear by used balls are delusional - they think i am wrong.

Bottom line - you always get what you pay for.

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I played the DT Solo's today on tight fairways and have used and like both. Picked up a dozen last evening. The Solo is a mid price 2 piece distance and control ball with a good skin I can play for a few rounds (if I don't lose it). It has a tighter flight pattern with 70+ more dimples. I think 378 vs 302. The Solo stuck the greens just fine (damp and sloped) with stop by pitch mark or back up about 24" 100-150 yards out this morning. The NXT's are two piece also with skin different but my iron performance better with them. But I was driving really tight fairways and needed more flight control. I get mine from my club fitter shop who contracts from the local courses to collect balls for resell. I use his used balls for practice like today, and new for league and events. There are slight differences, like how long they have been exposed. Some cover materials don't discolor, some do. You can tell when you hit that hard spot they have cleaned and it stay on path.
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That is my question. Poster above said they are just as good and you say they are trash. What is it?


Notice he is comparing them to food which spoils. Golf balls mostly do not. I don't pick through my neighbors trash but I might buy their used car. Being used doesn't make it trash.

Sometimes you can get just as much bang for less bucks. In the past few years I have saved enough on golf balls to be able to purchase any of the latest and greatest new iron sets. Rather than do that I will wait until they are no longer the latest/greatest and then buy the same set for a much reduced price (like I did with my current irons. I paid $300 for them new while a guy I play with paid $700 when they first came out).


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