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I have a new 5 wood, Cleveland CG Black , 2012 model. I love this club. It is my favorite club although I have been playing irons for two years and driver for a year. For me, this  club is definitely the easiest to hit flush for me, although I have only had it for a few weeks. I love the soft, beatiful contact and the trajectory. I have to hit at least 10 balls with my 7iron before I get a nice contact, while with this club it takes about three. The only problem is that the club came with a superlight grip, Tour 25, only 25 g, but in standard size, whereas I use midsize grips. The whole club weighs only about 280 grams. The swingweight is D2. I suppose they mean with this light shaft and ligth grip. Now if I get a midsize  Golf Pride Tour Velvet grip, it weighs about 60 grams. That's 35 grams difference. I know that swingweight is not affected by the weight of the grip that much or not at all, but 35 grams seems like a lot of difference. The club just as it is now, seems fantastically balanced just for me. Now if I go to midsize grip, the whole club will be 35 grams heavier and the SW will be messed up at least  a little. What would be a near no nonsence solution to this problem? I don't want to lose that D2 swingweight which seems perfect. I don't know why they don't sell midsize Tour 25 grips, even if they are 35 grams, instaed of 25, that would be the perfect solution for me, but like this I have no idea what to do, only hope that I will get used to a club with a different overal weight and probably different feel.  I would appreciate some kind of wise tips from experienced golfers.            


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Actually a heavy grip will reduce the swing weight.  It will increase the overall weight of the club as well.  Swing weight is kind of a feel thing.  The heavy grip will counter balance the head.  This is done all the time with putters.  Nicklaus sells a grip called "The Secret" I believe which is a counter weighted grip.  The club will feel lighter when you're swinging.

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Actually a heavy grip will reduce the swing weight.  It will increase the overall weight of the club as well.  Swing weight is kind of a feel thing.  The heavy grip will counter balance the head.  This is done all the time with putters.  Nicklaus sells a grip called "The Secret" I believe which is a counter weighted grip.  The club will feel lighter when you're swinging.

That's what I am afraid of: different feel, different weight... seems like just bc I need a midsize grip I have to put up with a different club altogether, which sucks. 

   


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seems like the only way to maintain the feel and weight of the club is to add four wraps to the standard grip, and achieve a midsize like grip size and not lose any of the wonderful balance and feel I have now with the club  


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I really don't think putting a midsize grip on will ruin the feel.  I like a heavier club head because it slows down my transition which is my biggest fault.  Anything that slows down most golfers swings will increase their consistency.  Over swinging kills.

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That's what I am afraid of: different feel, different weight... seems like just bc I need a midsize grip I have to put up with a different club altogether, which sucks. 

   

Find a lightweight midsize grip.

Although, I've got to tell you, since you are wrapping your hands around the grip, that negates the static swingweight measurement -- Bottom Line - I  would not be that concerned about it, but you are talking a significant jump in weight. Now if the extra weight was all at the top of the grip, that might be another matter, but it is not.

Lots of liteweight grips out there - find one. Or try a liteweight grip with 2 extra wraps - not midsize but close. Try a liteweight WInn grip -- the Winn Dri Tac Mid is 49g.

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Find a lightweight midsize grip.

Although, I've got to tell you, since you are wrapping your hands around the grip, that negates the static swingweight measurement -- Bottom Line - I  would not be that concerned about it, but you are talking a significant jump in weight. Now if the extra weight was all at the top of the grip, that might be another matter, but it is not.

Lots of liteweight grips out there - find one. Or try a liteweight grip with 2 extra wraps - not midsize but close. Try a liteweight WInn grip -- the Winn Dri Tac Mid is 49g.

49 grams is still quite different from 25 grams I think, but I could keep this grip and add two wraps under it - why not four wraps, though? 

But I have just found this: http://www.winngrips.com/products/comfort-grips/dri-tac-wrap-lite-midsize/

 

I didn t know such grips really existed, I tried to google lightweight midsize grips but found nothing under 50 grams, now at this site, they offer this superlight midsize grip.  Only 23 grams.    

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49 grams is still quite different from 25 grams I think, but I could keep this grip and add two wraps under it - why not four wraps, though? 

But I have just found this: http://www.winngrips.com/products/comfort-grips/dri-tac-wrap-lite-midsize/

 

I didn t know such grips really existed, I tried to google lightweight midsize grips but found nothing under 50 grams, now at this site, they offer this superlight midsize grip.  Only 23 grams.    

There you have it. I knew Winns were light but I did not go to the site, just an online store. Good find. I use Dri Tacs because I find them extremely comfortable.

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perhaps you are hitting this club so flush because of the smaller grip which encourages more wrist action.

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perhaps you are hitting this club so flush because of the smaller grip which encourages more wrist action.

I hope that is not the case, I hook the club quite often - which would suggest too much wrist action, but when I said flush I meant I am surprised how easier it is to hit the sweet spot compared to my driver, or irons - But if the midsize grip makes the club too difficult to hit nicely it would suggest the regular grip suits me better, we'll see, I can experiment a bit.  

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perhaps you are hitting this club so flush because of the smaller grip which encourages more wrist action.

Size of the grip has no appreciable affect on the "release" or "wrist action."

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