Politics - Where Do you Stand?

[9wood]

10 hours ago, Mr. Desmond said:

I don't think the platforms of the parties go far enough to initiate change 

We have seen enough "change" these last 7 years, and none of it has been good. It's time to go back to some of the old things that worked. Things that made this country the most powerful and respected nation on earth. The current POTUS and his failed progressive socialist agenda will go down in history as the worst POTUS ever. 

[boogielicious]

13 minutes ago, 9wood said:

We have seen enough "change" these last 7 years, and none of it has been good. It's time to go back to some of the old things that worked. Things that made this country the most powerful and respected nation on earth. The current POTUS and his failed progressive socialist agenda will go down in history as the worst POTUS ever. 

Please stay on topic. If you want to start a whiny ranting thread, then do so. This topic is specific to the OP.

[Valleygolfer]

Just now, boogielicious said:

Please stay on topic. If you want to start a whiny ranting thread, then do so. This topic is specific to the OP.

Boogie calling names...lol

[boogielicious]

Just now, Valleygolfer said:

Boogie calling names...lol

There is no name calling in that quote addressed to a poster.

[Valleygolfer]

1 minute ago, boogielicious said:

There is no name calling in that quote addressed to a poster.

Indirect inference my friend, is all I am saying. Psst... I get in trubble for those things...

[9wood]

7 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Please stay on topic. If you want to start a whiny ranting thread, then do so. This topic is specific to the OP.

Factual and honest is in no way whiny or ranting. The real problem is some people dislike honest and truthful statements

[boogielicious]

Just now, Valleygolfer said:

Indirect inference my friend, is all I am saying. Psst... I get in trubble for those things...

Calling a thread or post something is not the same as direct name calling. Please understand the difference.

[Valleygolfer]

3 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Calling a thread or post something is not the same as direct name calling. Please understand the difference.

Right. Got it!

5 minutes ago, 9wood said:

Factual and honest is in no way whiny or ranting. The real problem is some people dislike honest and truthful statements

Well truthful and honest  in your opinion.

[sirhacksalot]

On 12/19/2015 at 11:44 AM, dkolo said:

I've grown to hate quizzes like these. I'm a Republican and came out with a 2.5. I don't value each of these topics even close to equally and that leads to absurd results like this one. 

Agreed.  Though I am more of an Independant- before either

 

On 12/19/2015 at 10:31 AM, iacas said:

Issue 1: Abortion

Issue 2: Education

Issue 3: Energy

Issue 4: Firearms

Issue 5: Foreign Policy

Issue 6: Healthcare

Issue 7: Immigration

Issue 8: Labor

Issue 9: Marriage

Issue 10: Taxes

1. Personally against but feel it should be safe and legal for others

2.Education should not be as big of a hurdle as what it is.  This includes proper training for trades and apprenticeships

3.Pro alternative energy at the same times pro fossil fuel production for the jobs and GDP

4. Pro firearms, yet not opposed to free training for those wanting to conceal carry etc

5. We are too involved with foreign Policy (policing and supporting)

6. Healthcare should be reformed by common sense.  There is no way for big pharma and industry to make the profits that they are used to and alotted by our powers that be and for healthcare to be obtainable by all.

7. I am for all people being able to better themselves through hard work and sacrifice

8. Again common sense should be involved

9. The government should get out of the marriage business all together. 

10.  The system should be fixed, loop holes closed

 

Other topics.

I am pro non-incarceration of non violent crimes.  Legalization and taxation of drugs. I am against the death penalty but pro work camps.  Prisoners should produce for society not be a drain. Basically if you don't want bread and water and a dark cell your paving the roads, etc.  if not bread water and dark cell.  No more cable, 3 squares and room larger than my first apartment. 

 

[9wood]

4 hours ago, Valleygolfer said:

Right. Got it!

Well truthful and honest  in your opinion.

Since you disagree, can you please point out the untruthfulness in my comment?

[iacas]

2 minutes ago, 9wood said:

Since you disagree, can you please point out the untruthfulness in my comment?

No, he can't, because since you seem to have missed it several times now, it's off topic.

Any more OT posts will be deleted and the poster warned.

This thread is not for discussing any particular politician, or policy, or position. It's to demonstrate that the majority of people are somewhere in the middle and have more in common than the two-party system tends to allow.

[rkim291968]

The poll result so far bodes well for Dems and Clinton for the upcoming general election.  We should have this poll every 4 years to predict the winner of the presidential election. 

[Fourputt]

13 hours ago, rkim291968 said:

The poll result so far bodes well for Dems and Clinton for the upcoming general election.  We should have this poll every 4 years to predict the winner of the presidential election. 

I'm seeing 21-20 with 5 undecided.  That is too close to call, especially on such a statistically insignificant sample.  I felt like the "platform" statements were already slanted toward the left.  Most of the Republican positions were written in a rather negative manner, as if they has been composed by a Democrat.  That would tend to sway the results.  Then too since these were written 4 years ago, several things have changed since then.  I'd take anything you see in that graph with more than a few grains of salt.

[Rainmaker]

Flawed poll! 

You need an option for:

I am disillusioned by the political process.  Much like with Police, I believe anybody who *wants* to be a politician should be barred from politics.   Outside of the comedy value, I prefer not to discuss or think about politics.   

 

They are all dirty and self-serving.  It makes no difference who is in the White House.  Except Donald Trump . .that would be a national embarrassment

[Mr. Desmond]

48 minutes ago, Fourputt said:

I'm seeing 21-20 with 5 undecided.  That is too close to call, especially on such a statistically insignificant sample.  I felt like the "platform" statements were already slanted toward the left.  Most of the Republican positions were written in a rather negative manner, as if they has been composed by a Democrat.  That would tend to sway the results.  Then too since these were written 4 years ago, several things have changed since then.  I'd take anything you see in that graph with more than a few grains of salt.

Admittedly, The Dems write a better platform of aspirations, even if one does not agree with the way they govern. But c'mon, the Pubs write their own platform. They don't outsource it. lol.

[Fourputt]

16 minutes ago, Mr. Desmond said:

Admittedly, The Dems write a better platform of aspirations, even if one does not agree with the way they govern. But c'mon, the Pubs write their own platform. They don't outsource it. lol.

I just said that was what it reads like, not that it was actually written by Dems.  The Dems side is all touchy-feely and the GOP side is more scientific and analytical, more in your face and straight to the point.  That's bound to turn some people away - too many people can't deal with that sort of directness.

[rkim291968]

1 hour ago, Fourputt said:

I'm seeing 21-20 with 5 undecided.  That is too close to call, especially on such a statistically insignificant sample.  I felt like the "platform" statements were already slanted toward the left.  Most of the Republican positions were written in a rather negative manner, as if they has been composed by a Democrat.  That would tend to sway the results.  Then too since these were written 4 years ago, several things have changed since then.  I'd take anything you see in that graph with more than a few grains of salt.

My reply was in jest but you are absolutely right. 

If I were to generalize GOP & DEM philosophy in a sentence (not possible, but for fun), I'd say GOP tends to be more self centered (it's my right, I am entitled) vs DEMs more "live and let live"  positions.   Neither is bad - just coming from different perspective.  

[Fourputt]

20 minutes ago, rkim291968 said:

My reply was in jest but you are absolutely right. 

If I were to generalize GOP & DEM philosophy in a sentence (not possible, but for fun), I'd say GOP tends to be more self centered (it's my right, I am entitled) vs DEMs more "live and let live"  positions.   Neither is bad - just coming from different perspective.  

I'm not sure I'd characterize them as self centered so much as respecting and supportive of those policies which direct people to do for themselves as far as is reasonable rather than letting or expecting the government to take care of everything.