Proximity to the hole avg when GIR

[klund]

Looking at PGA tour homepage and proximity to hole stats im guessing that it does not account for GIR or not.

Because the figure seemed quite high. 

Does anyone know or can find the avg of proximity to hole when GIR for the pros?

[Mike Boatright]

http://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.331.html

[RandallT]

1 hour ago, klund said:

Looking at PGA tour homepage and proximity to hole stats im guessing that it does not account for GIR or not.

Because the figure seemed quite high. 

Does anyone know or can find the avg of proximity to hole when GIR for the pros?

I think you're right, and the PGA focuses on proximity from various ranges, and they don't care if it's in regulation or not. 

As I think about it, their approach (no pun intended) makes good sense. It only matters how close they get it from various ranges. We can compare ourselves against that apple-apples.

I think proximity for GIR would be interesting, but not really apple-apples to compare ourselves with because we play such different courses.

[Dave2512]

I wouldn't gain anything from that comparison. Pros are precise and hitting it to the flag and often taking on trouble. It's pretty much the opposite of what I do. The flag for me is just a reference yardage and I am simply trying to hit the green anywhere on the green. Definitely not taking on any trouble and the 50% plus time I miss the green my goal isn't close to the hole as much as having a chance to get up and down without a hero shot.

[klund]

14 hours ago, RandallT said:

I think you're right, and the PGA focuses on proximity from various ranges, and they don't care if it's in regulation or not. 

As I think about it, their approach (no pun intended) makes good sense. It only matters how close they get it from various ranges. We can compare ourselves against that apple-apples.

I think proximity for GIR would be interesting, but not really apple-apples to compare ourselves with because we play such different courses.

Reason im looking at it becuase i have been starting to keep this statistic for myself as i think it could be a good sign if ballstriking is good or bad. Of course distance, pin position and like play a big part from round to round but i think i could decent idea over time. I tried one of the Strokes gained spreadsheet but it was a pain to fill in after every round.

I will just get my average of the last 10 rounds and try to improve it all the time! Should show up in the birdie column as well i hope!

[saevel25]

19 minutes ago, klund said:

Reason im looking at it becuase i have been starting to keep this statistic for myself as i think it could be a good sign if ballstriking is good or bad. Of course distance, pin position and like play a big part from round to round but i think i could decent idea over time. I tried one of the Strokes gained spreadsheet but it was a pain to fill in after every round.

GIR is the king of stats. 

Proximity to the hole in general is a good stat. If your proximity to the hole is good and you are missing greens then you should adjust your aim ;) 

[Golfingdad]

6 hours ago, Dave2512 said:

I wouldn't gain anything from that comparison. Pros are precise and hitting it to the flag and often taking on trouble. It's pretty much the opposite of what I do. The flag for me is just a reference yardage and I am simply trying to hit the green anywhere on the green. Definitely not taking on any trouble and the 50% plus time I miss the green my goal isn't close to the hole as much as having a chance to get up and down without a hero shot.

But you could slightly alter your stats by calling "proximity" the distance from your ball to your actual target, not the hole itself, and then it could be closer to apples-apples.  Might be gala-Fuji or red delicious-honey crisp, but at least it's apples. :P

[klund]

2 hours ago, saevel25 said:

GIR is the king of stats. 

Proximity to the hole in general is a good stat. If your proximity to the hole is good and you are missing greens then you should adjust your aim ;) 

Yes GIR is king. But i feel the relation between GIR and proximity to hole/GIR would be very interesting. At the moment i dont have a baseline but will solve itself in couple of rounds when i have some data on my own game.

[saevel25]

2 minutes ago, klund said:

Yes GIR is king. But i feel the relation between GIR and proximity to hole/GIR would be very interesting. At the moment i dont have a baseline but will solve itself in couple of rounds when i have some data on my own game.

I think it probably is a wash. Sometimes you could end up 5 feet from the hole and be just off the green or on the fringe. You could be on the green 60 feet away. I am not certain this is really that important of a stat to look at. 

[klund]

14 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

I think it probably is a wash. Sometimes you could end up 5 feet from the hole and be just off the green or on the fringe. You could be on the green 60 feet away. I am not certain this is really that important of a stat to look at. 

Yes but over time i believe it could be interesting to see.

So back to my question. Is this data available somewhere? I'm guessing it is available in Every shot counts data but not presented?