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He was in a foursome in the scramble tourney I played in today. His caddy (Willie) rode on the back of the cart

The most ironic thing is, his foursome lost by two strokes to a foursome of true amateurs.

In my (looking for a new cart bag):

Driver: AirMax 430-S, 10.5°, Fujikura R Flex
3-Wood: Gigagolf Ozzy Moto, 15°, UST PGH 100 R Flex
5-Wood: Gigagolf Ozzy Moto, 18°, UST PGH 100 R FlexHybrids: Deep Red 17°/21°Irons: Deep Red, 17-4 Stainless, 5-PWWedges: Orlimar SOS Black Oxide,...

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  Wireless said:
He was in a foursome in the scramble tourney I played in today. His caddy (Willie) rode on the back of the cart

You mean, you didn't play with Hal Sutton. And there's nothing ironic about it; it might be odd, or sad, or expected, but not ironic.

I also didn't play with Hal Sutton. But I did play with Ben Crenshaw in a charity event in San Diego. What a nice guy. Best part of his game was approach shots, seemed to me.
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  Will said:
You mean, you didn't play with Hal Sutton. And there's nothing ironic about it; it might be odd, or sad, or expected, but not ironic.

Hmm, OK. It was IRONIC. As in, unexpected . In case you wish to further bust balls, let me point you to a definition of ironic: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ironic
In my (looking for a new cart bag):

Driver: AirMax 430-S, 10.5°, Fujikura R Flex
3-Wood: Gigagolf Ozzy Moto, 15°, UST PGH 100 R Flex
5-Wood: Gigagolf Ozzy Moto, 18°, UST PGH 100 R FlexHybrids: Deep Red 17°/21°Irons: Deep Red, 17-4 Stainless, 5-PWWedges: Orlimar SOS Black Oxide,...

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  Wireless said:
Hmm, OK.

I apologize, you are right. I had always thought of irony as meaning something more toward an unusual juxtaposition, but it appears the definition is more broad. Sorry.

Must have been fun having Sutton at your event.
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Taylormade Burner 3-wood
Taylormade Rescue 16°
Taylormade Rac OS 5-PW
Ping G2 3-4Titleist Vokey SM54.14, SM60.08Odyssey Marxman putterTitleist Pro-V1 balls

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  Will said:
I apologize, you are right. I had always thought of irony as meaning something more toward an unusual juxtaposition, but it appears the definition is more broad. Sorry.

No worries. We were also supposed to have a clinic from David Toms, but apparently he injured his foot/ankle or something and couldn't make it. We played Southern Trace, which is Toms' home course. There was also a rumor that Terry Bradshaw would show, but no such luck.

In my (looking for a new cart bag):

Driver: AirMax 430-S, 10.5°, Fujikura R Flex
3-Wood: Gigagolf Ozzy Moto, 15°, UST PGH 100 R Flex
5-Wood: Gigagolf Ozzy Moto, 18°, UST PGH 100 R FlexHybrids: Deep Red 17°/21°Irons: Deep Red, 17-4 Stainless, 5-PWWedges: Orlimar SOS Black Oxide,...

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  Wireless said:
The most ironic thing is, his foursome lost by two strokes to a foursome of true amateurs.

Not entirely. They had four people with handicaps; I bet Hal Sutton doesn't maintain a handicap anymore.

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  Wireless said:
He was in a foursome in the scramble tourney I played in today. His caddy (Willie) rode on the back of the cart

It must not have

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Having a pro on your team won't make you play 20 under par, he only gets one or two putts per green and if all is partners miss it's not his fault. They usually putt last so you don't get an advantage of watching his line, if they made a one putt on every green they would be at the top of every leader board each week.

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