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I know the answer to this is to hit both and see how far they go, but, that aside, which hybrid would you expect to best fill the gap between a Callaway X16 4 iron (24° loft) and a Cleveland 588 5 wood (18° loft) - a number 4 Adams Tight Lies 2 at 22° or a number 3 Adams Idea at 19° ?  A friend is getting rid of both and has offered me them before they go on eBay.

 


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6 minutes ago, Joe85 said:

I know the answer to this is to hit both and see how far they go, but,

 

Only way to know for sure. But from all I've read the 4h will fit between a 5w and 4i best. Some people use a 3h as a drop in for a 5w if distance is the only factor.

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Adams Tight Lies 2 hybrid at 22*:
  Mitsu KuroKage 65 gr. shaft, 39.5", D2 swingweight. Has a smaller head which cuts through rough nicely, and reviewers agree it gives decent distance.

Adams Idea hybrid at 19*: Need more info here, there's more than a dozen models of Idea hybrid.

X16 4i has 38.5" stock shaft, prob. D2 swingweight. TL2 would give you +2* loft and +1" shaft over 4i, maybe 15 more yards?

Cleveland now only makes putters and wedges, so I couldn't find comparison specs on your 588 / 5W.

But, as @Midpack suggested, can you just get the two hybrids and try them side-by-side? You'll be using them, not Mp or me.

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I play at Titleist 915F fairway and 915H hybrid. I have the 3 and 4H and played the 5W last year. The 3H and 5W were close in total distance, but the 3H was higher launching. Keep that in mind when choosing. This year I switched to the 915F 4 wood to increase the gap a few yards.

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Get on a launch monitor and find something that launches high and lands without too much run off for long shots at the green, and gives you the distance you need

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Get on a launch monitor and find something that launches high and lands without too much run off for long shots at the green, and gives you the distance you need. Check backspin, check carry distance, check your average ball flight, And take the two clubs on opposite side of it for comparison. I Hate hitting my 5w into a green, but my 3h is perfect for it. Problem is, I tried about 15 hybrids before I found THE ONE. So take your time and don't get frustrated. 

 

Same as driver. I hit the GBB Epic, the new Ping G, the new Titleist, The GBB Epic Sub Zero, King LTD, King LTD Pro, and the M1 and M2. At the end, I had Ping G, the GBB Epic, and the Cobra King LTD (everything was 9-9.5*). I hit about thirty more balls with each, and from sheer numbers, shot dispersion, and my own feel of the club, the one I didn't even want to hit to begin with won out, because that damn GBB Epic is long as hell, forgiving, and just so damn easy to hit well. And throughout training and on the course, I just love it. (on that note, how does anyone ever play a driver that is 10.5*+. I tried the GBB in a 10.5*, and it was ridiculous how much backspin I got, and how much higher my launch angles were. It was just an experiment, but now I know why hardly anyone hits a driver over 9*

 

Seriously, when you need a new club, take it to a launch monitor. Get the stats you need. I had to do it for my whole set this year (except for my wedges and putters, which i've been fitted for previously). And people can say what they want, the Vapor Fly Pro Irons are damned fantastic. Nike finally makes good Irons, then drops out of the business. 

I'm eyeing up those Ping I200's though. Not just because Ping finally made a nice iron (Yes, I hate the look of most Pings), and the feel off of them is amazing. Sorry for the off topic rant into my own clubs, but my advice comes down to two things, launch monitor, and get fitted. 

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Sorry for the double post, the first was accidentally posted before I was finished, then it wouldn't let me edit for some reason. 

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No problem, it's  a good read!  

A difficulty here is that the nearest golf shop, or course with a shop, is over two hours away. It's the North West coast of Scotland so we have lots of courses but few shops.  

I tried them both today, and the Tight Lies was better for me - filled the gap better, and the Idea made a sound I didn't like much.


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Have u tried choking down on the 5 wood and inch or so?  That's what I do, mostly because I have very few shots from that distance.  Usually from that distance I'm not pin hunting either, I'm looking to just get it on the green somewhere.

I'd rather another wedge in the bag since I hit a lot if those or sometimes nothing...less to lug around.

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If it is feasible, I would get both hybrids.  A few years ago, I was in a similar situation and a buddy sold me his 20* and 23* hybrids. Two of the most versatile clubs and some of the best money I ever spent on golf.

To answer your question, though, the 22* is likely the best candidate for the specific purpose.

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