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Who is #3?
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1. If we accept the premise that Jack and Tiger occupy the first 2 places on the all-time list, who is third on the list?
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Ben Hogan25
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Gary Player2
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Phil Mickelson24
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Tom Watson7
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Arnold Palmer9
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Sam Snead7
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Byron Nelson1
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Bobby Jones3
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Other (please specify)3
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