Lexi Thompson Steps Away from the Game to Recharge

[Vinsk]

2 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

In my experience cheats who never own up are pretty hardy. They sleep just fine. It takes a semblence of class to be conflicted in the first place. 

I see her more as Michelle Wie who may be a bit lost in her direction because of onset of adulthood + independence, whatever and maybe, just maybe the incidence might have triggered what was brewing anyway. 

I just don't think one incidence is at the root of turning her life into a Shakespearian tragedy. For all we know, she just hasn't been practicing much.

Well said.

[arab_joe]

On 9/15/2018 at 7:09 PM, Sandy Divot said:

Hope she does what is best for her.

Me too.

She is, lest we forget, a 23 year old who probably has to deal with more attention, pressure, hype etc. in a day than any of us will in our life.  Good luck to her; she is hardly the first person to need a break.

On 9/16/2018 at 1:15 AM, Vinsk said:

Identity and emotional distress could be due to what I said. Sure it's possible it's absolutely wrong.

Identity and emotional distress could also be due to the fact that she was heavily punished for an act that may, for all we know, have been completely accidental (negligent, yes, but there is at least a possibility that it was not deliberate...).  Regardless of the rules, that has to have a serious impact on one's mental state.

[iacas]

6 hours ago, arab_joe said:

Identity and emotional distress could also be due to the fact that she was heavily punished for an act that may, for all we know, have been completely accidental (negligent, yes, but there is at least a possibility that it was not deliberate...).

She was "heavily punished" with four strokes? When it was a few years ago a DQ?

After the fact, the majority of people felt bad for her and were on her side, despite the completely non-accidental way in which she handled things - the way she spoke to the official who told her, the way she played the victim role, etc. For that completely non-accidental reaction, after the fact, a few people spoke ill of her behavior. But they were in a small minority, too.

 

[Valleygolfer]

16 hours ago, arab_joe said:

Identity and emotional distress could also be due to the fact that she was heavily punished for an act that may, for all we know, have been completely accidental (negligent, yes, but there is at least a possibility that it was not deliberate...).  Regardless of the rules, that has to have a serious impact on one's mental state.

@iacas left out, bullshit. She know what she was doing. Mental stress could have been avoided by following the rules. 

[arab_joe]

14 hours ago, iacas said:

She was "heavily punished" with four strokes? When it was a few years ago a DQ?

My point was more that it is irrelevant whether you or I believe that she was or was not heavily punished. 

Lexi Thompson appears to be having serious emotional issues at the moment, and I was forwarding one possible explanation for the same - that she feels has been heavily punished (the knock-on effect, if nothing else, was heavy - she lost out on a major championship because she broke a rule/nobody saw her break said rule during her round).  I don't think it is unreasonable to hypothesise that that situation could have a really detrimental impact on one's mental health, especially given the cruel timing - waiting until she was on the 12th hole of her final round did seem particularly unfortunate.

For what it's worth (and I admit it is worth very little..) I listened to a podcast recently with John Parramor (who clearly knows a lot, lot more than I do about this kind of thing) and he believes it was a mistake, as opposed to a deliberate act.  He also confirmed that the punishment was downgraded from DQ because it was deemed to be wholly disproportionate. 

Either way, I hope Lexi Thompson sorts out whatever is going on in her life (like I would hope for anyone else, really).

[Valleygolfer]

6 hours ago, arab_joe said:

she broke a rule/nobody saw her break said rule during

Otherwise it would just be cheating without getting caught. I don't know who Parramor is but people get soft on young bleach blonde females. 

 

[VaughanH]

I think that for some people, playing tournament golf ist helpful to get their minds off things and for others it's the other way round. She seems to be the latter. I don't hink it's the golf. I think it's the stress of it all combined with her personal life.

[iacas]

17 hours ago, arab_joe said:

For what it's worth (and I admit it is worth very little..) I listened to a podcast recently with John Parramor (who clearly knows a lot, lot more than I do about this kind of thing) and he believes it was a mistake, as opposed to a deliberate act.  He also confirmed that the punishment was downgraded from DQ because it was deemed to be wholly disproportionate.

One of the things with which I disagree with John Paramor… though I wonder if he honestly believes the 2019 deal where you get NO additional penalty whatsoever isn't going too far the other direction.

17 hours ago, arab_joe said:

Either way, I hope Lexi Thompson sorts out whatever is going on in her life (like I would hope for anyone else, really).

Hopefully.

11 hours ago, Valleygolfer said:

Otherwise it would just be cheating without getting caught. I don't know who Parramor is but people get soft on young bleach blonde females. 

C'mon, he's the European Tour's head of officiating.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/john-paramor-ruler-of-the-rules

[Valleygolfer]

7 minutes ago, iacas said:

C'mon, he's the European Tour's head of officiating

Well, how about that.... I still didn't know him but I stand by my statement. 

Edited September 26, 2018 by Valleygolfer

[Vinsk]

12 minutes ago, Valleygolfer said:

Well, how about that.... I still didn't know him but I stand by my statement. 

There wasn’t any ‘going soft on her’ as far as the rule and its enforcement aside from the 4 strokes and not a DQ change. But that wasn’t specific for Lexi right? The video certainly suggested it to be questionable as accidental. Had she picked up her ball..tossed it to her caddie for a cleaning then placed it back..maybe. She only lifted it a few inches...then moved it over and put it back down. But anyway...again..it was her response that left me with a negative impression of her. Back when we first discussed this Erik made a post that generally offered an example of an appropriate response. Lexi didn’t do any of that. She played the victim all throughout. 

[GrandStranded]

On ‎9‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 11:10 AM, Vinsk said:

Yeah it’s gotta be rough. I think she’s really struggling with an internal battle with her own integrity and moral virtue. She knows she’s a good person. But the guilt from the ball marking incident has taken its toll. She knows she’s a cheater and is trying to cope with that. It’s the Peter Brady syndrome. When Peter broke the vase but still accepted gifts and took the praise of being the only one to not say it was him as the others tried to protect him. She’s a fraud and needs to come clean and clear her conscience. 

OMG. Really? (I edited my initial response) but this coming from one of the biggest Tiger fans here strikes me as really amusing. Wonder why his "indescretions" the last decade or so aren't as bothersome?

Edited September 27, 2018 by GrandStranded

[iacas]

And once again, @GrandStranded takes it upon himself to bring up Tiger Woods in an unrelated topic/discussion.

[GrandStranded]

11 minutes ago, iacas said:

And once again, @GrandStranded takes it upon himself to bring up Tiger.

LOL.I also posted how impressed I was Sunday with what he did. I also posted in the tournament thread on Saturday I hoped Tiger would win so Colin could get to see it.Just curious how a big fan of his could forgive him, and could then be so relentlessly unforgiven to a young female golfer. 

Edited September 27, 2018 by GrandStranded

[iacas]

7 minutes ago, GrandStranded said:

LOL.I also posted how impressed I was Sunday with what he did. Just curious how a big fan of his could forgive him, and could then be so relentlessly unforgiven to a young female golfer.

I'm not going to speak for him, but this is cheating at golf, not banging hookers.

You complain about how often people post about Tiger, and it turns out that's almost exclusively what you post about.

Back to the topic, please.

[dennyjones]

After reading this thread, I believe I've changed my opinion.   I initial said golf was her job and she should just do it but I've worked with several people that have taken a step back from work for personal reasons.    It's not my job to judge her, just enjoy the good golf.  

[Vinsk]

50 minutes ago, iacas said:

I'm not going to speak for him, but this is cheating at golf, not banging hookers.

Yep.

[Valleygolfer]

1 hour ago, Vinsk said:

There wasn’t any ‘going soft on her’ as far as the rule and its enforcement aside from the 4 strokes and not a DQ change. But that wasn’t specific for Lexi right? The video certainly suggested it to be questionable as accidental. Had she picked up her ball..tossed it to her caddie for a cleaning then placed it back..maybe. She only lifted it a few inches...then moved it over and put it back down. But anyway...again..it was her response that left me with a negative impression of her. Back when we first discussed this Erik made a post that generally offered an example of an appropriate response. Lexi didn’t do any of that. She played the victim all throughout. 

I didn't think the governing body went soft on her but others would "let her off" with a mini slap on the wrist. 

[Vinsk]

1 minute ago, Valleygolfer said:

I didn't think the governing body went soft on her but others would "let her off" with a mini slap on the wrist. 

Irrelevant really. My pure speculative comment was that she’s taking time away and her fairly recent escapades with golf may have a large role in this. She may feel that she let this victim role go to far and her conscience is telling her she wishes she had just owned up to her ‘accident’ and said she honors golf and respects the field and accepts the penalty and wishes her fans would do the same. And I’m purely speculating this but that may take a toll on her young self.