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Wow one response. Telling for sure. Anybody else?

Thanks @lastings.

Hey all! So I need some help. I have been around TST for years. Participate on and off, mostly off recently. I am in my mid-50's, 10 hcp and was able to retire early and live the life! My financial situation can be described as solidly middle class retirement. I can't be frivolous but I am OK. Found the perfect situation in Las Vegas and the last 3 years have been great. Well the course sold and I am not too pleased with the new owner. So investigating a change. The problem is that the things most important to me are the hardest to research on the web. I will probably be a snowbird but who knows what life brings. Here is my criteria in pretty much priority order of what I am looking for. So just shoot out suggestions and I start listing them below. 1) Great course that challenging but playable every day 2) Several different groups/cliques that a guy could find regular games with. Never know which one you will bond with so there has to be options. 2a) Active tournament and men's/ladies club schedule 3)Private carts allowed 3a) Golf cart neighborhood 4) Decent real estate prospects 5) Reasonable F&B service and selection 6) Good staff and service 7) Good cost benefit There is my top 7. The private cart situation my be ranked a little high on the list but the golf cart lifestyle is really cool. Lets see what you got! Thanks in advance.

The answer to your question is simple. As soon as you can tell the difference. Thus will begin a lifetime of experimentation.

Meat, fire, eat! The essence of being a hunter! I cheat by using gas but wood is far superior! Overpriced French pressure cooker......no way.

i seriously doubt that the crack of a driver would be loud enough to cause any hearing loss. However, a decibel meter could prove me wrong. If you are really concerned use ear plugs.

Easy. Assuming a pin sheet or notes in a yardage book are still allowed. You could color code a hand drawing. Add a compass rose and some dots or shading that hides the info in plain sight. Even a series of numbers on the pin sheet that contains all of the same info to help recall what was studied. If i spent any time at all thonking mpre about this it would be very easy to transcribe the green sheet into something that is allowed by the rules. I am just trying ti illustrate how unenforceable all this would be.

Another thought as i was reading the posts. There is no way to control the publication of the same information. So any ban will eventually tell how well the player or caddy can memorize the chart or worse how they hide the same information within the allowed materials.

My first comment was more tongue in cheek. Should have added an emoji. "People" I guess are the posters who disagree with my point. I was simply trying to draw a distinction as to where the line would be. Caddies have been stepping off yardages and drawing diagrams and slopes of greens for generations. Now that it has evolved to the current situation "people" now seem to take issue. Harder line for me to draw than others.

I know better than argue with the site owner but it sure seems that people only have an issue if someone else writes it down. If a caddy went out after play or during practice round and wrote notes then that would be ok? Again I can't really see the difference between a green book, a yardage map, a pin sheet, or even labeled sprinkler heads. These things are constants and do not vary substantially day to day thus public information.

Your distinction is lost on me...... Advice "Advice" is any counsel or suggestion that could influence a player in determining his play, the choice of a club or the method of making a stroke. Information on the Rules, distance or matters of public information, such as the position of hazards or the flagstick on the putting green, is not advice. So wouldn't the slope of the green be a matter of public information? Yeah we used some technology to determine that information just like we have been using surveying equipment to label sprinkler heads long before lasers were in vogue. So the act of writing it down is the break point? Or is it that someone else did it and we are using it? Naked eye standard? Standard pin sheet is OK but slope sheet not? None of those are very far removed from a simple labeled sprinkler head. Slippery slope.

I had placed a bet on him in Las Vegas to win. Since he didn't tee off it was no action and i got my $20 bet back. I am certain this entered his mind when making the decision.

It would seem to me that if are not losing at least a few balls, you are not being aggressive enough. Not sure what that number is but, some.

Tipping is very specific. If allowed a few fivers thrown around will go a long way. Buy some beers or food if it seems right. It may have to go on the member's account and you and your sponsor can work that out. But, F&B helps on the club's bottom line and helps keep member dues lower. Not at all required but I really appreciate when my guests pick up a lunch tab.

Ahhhhhh yes! Now that the weather is breaking and people are getting out to play, winter threads give way to the inevitable POP threads. We should have an annual pool on how many posts in the various threads.

What I think..... 1) Is a $5 Nassau worth fighting with you buddies over? 2) In my circle the same $20 seems to make the rounds over the long haul. If you look over the universe of rounds and you win as much as you lose then handicaps are about right. But if all things are equal and someone wins every time you play then something is rotten in Denmark.

Seems to me with MAP from most companies the variance in club and high end ball prices has very little variation. I bought my last set of Titleist woods and irons through my club. As good a deal as any and got some goodwill with my pro. Also I suspect that most mom and pops can't swing a $25,000 Trackman. Can't really do a good fitting anymore without that data. And who would want to?

I think I am playing only slightly better than those who signed up and have not touched their roster since. I cant pick a horse to save my life.

So am I to understand that some of you have 6 putters, 8 different drivers and enough wedges to fill a medium sized bunker, but only one bag? I probably have six bags at the moment all filled with cast off clubs but all still very functional. The two main gamers (I hate that word BTW) ones in the rotation are a Titlest branded cart bag ( not sure who made it but surely the lowest bidder) and a Sun Mountain Four stand bag. The bag fits the mission.

Sorry boss this one is not up to your usual intellectual standards. I do not know where you play but I don't know anyone who just goes up and drops. Sometime a weird lost ball thing but they lose the hole. So your supposition that most people don't play by the rules is lost on me. I know you are talking about the entire universe of golfers but your weekend drinker who happens to be doing it on a nice lawn that day should be nothing to us. They have fun. They enjoy their day. I even enjoy their company sometimes, but the rules are not really for them and they couldn't care less. it doesn't matter what the rule are they are just smacking the ball around the lawn and probably having a good time doing it. So can we please just ignore those people from now on. Next your question is flawed. The answer is sometimes. Just like using a drop area vs normal hazard procedures I am going to use whatever option get me closest to the hole or the best angle. One of the premises of your book is that closer to the hole is better almost all the time. So it would take a lot for me to give up distance if allowed by the rules. As much as I find some of the rules BS. (Come on a divot is the utter definition of GUR.) Anyway stroke and distance is what it is and should remain the same for lost and OB. But if it gets changed I will do what is best for me to crush my opponents.

Can you restate the question differently. I am confused. A player should know in dizzying detail how far each club goes! If I step on it it goes X, average it goes X, cut, draw, thin, hot, cold, windy. For us low double digit HC guys it is one variable we can control. Our swings don't always work out right, but club selection is very much under our control and that means knowing the realistic distances give the moment.

Lots and lots of good choices out there. I would look at AP2's! Technically a "players iron" but pretty forgiving. The lofts are a bit weaker than the AP1's but they can always be bent to fit your bag.

I think that is integral to the course and thus not an obstruction therefore play it as it lies or take unplayable.

Our regulars number about 12-16 on the weekends and we like team games so that even if you had a bad day you might contribute on one hole or get carried by your team. Sometimes we add a low net just for something different instead of skins. We are always on the lookout for different scoring/games to play. We post scores so scrambles, shambles and other "hit and giggles" don't really appeal to us. We have tried the usual stuff such as..... Count two better but 3 (or more) on the par threes. Or par fives. Or highest handicap holes. Or some other random selection of holes. 1-2-3-4 (bear with me on this one) On the first hole you count one BB for the team. If it is a net red number then on two you count two. If another red number then hole three you count 3 balls. If it is par then you stay at two. If you score over par your team goes back to counting one ball and you start again. Trust me it can be nerve racking if your are counting 4 on a par three over water and you are the last guy to hit. Or you can make a big move if you can sneak out a net birdie or three. We score it on a number under par basis. Stableford and its variations Rotating teams of two man BB Sometimes we do Sunday Punishment. If you are high net then you cover the bar and lunch tab. If we have ten guys or more we split it. Anyone have some others we can try?

Or its just a prop for the photo shoot.