NM Golf

I've done it for one foot at a course in South Fork, Colorado. One foot in a mountain stream at 8200 ft of elevation in September 🥶. Didn't pull off the shot either, hit it fat and got mud all over me. Made for a good story that evening over cocktails though.

I have seen this argument used several times throughout the years on this forum. And again, I really don't care how you or anyone else dresses, but this is a really weak reason to give as to why you don't wear traditional golf attire. I live in the sunniest city in the United States, 300+ days of glorious sunshine each and every year. Our summer temps are in the 95°-100° range for 4+ months, I play in a lot of hot sunny weather. The golf clothes I wear are specifically designed to keep me cool. Cool, moisture wicking fabrics are pretty much the norm these days. In fact I would imagine those workout shorts and shirts you speak of are probably made from the same types of fabrics my golf clothes are. So..just own it. You like to wear what you do because you like to look that way. There's no shame in that. Most courses won't even bat an eye. This is also one of those weak arguments, possibly even more so than "too hot". Basically you are saying "horrible people wear nice golf clothes" so I choose to wear yoga outfits to prove I am not a horrible person. That's ridiculous, I wear nice golf clothes and I do my absolute best to try and not be a horrible person. Additionally, I guarantee, someone out there in the world right now wearing yoga pants is, in fact, a really horrible person. SO let me reiterate. Dress how you like and own it...don't make excuses. At the risk of sounding like a horrible person I'm bringing a DJ to my mother in law's funeral, because it will be a party. Not that anyone will actually show up anyway to say goodbye to that old bat.

Define "getting away with it"... no, no, no, I am just joking. I am very much a traditionalist on golf attire, aka collared polo, golf pants or shorts, shirt tucked in, absolutely no denim, cargo shorts, etc. I won't even go practice in a tee shirt and jeans. FWIW That's just my personal opinion, and the way I choose to dress on the course. Everyone else can choose to look the way they like. One thing to keep in mind though is my mode of dress is welcome at all golf courses, everywhere. Just sayin'

Hawaiian golf shirt, of course, I always tuck in on the golf course. Hawaiian button up...not on your life! I do too, they have a time and place though, like on the beach with a cerveza!

Don't hate on me because I look so good. Let me ask you a question...What's got two thumbs, a white belt, and a scratch handicap? Have to disagree... Hawaiian golf shirts should be enjoyed by the masses, especially if partnered with a nice white belt. Button up Hawaiian shirts should never be worn on a golf course, for any reason, ever.

I hate jeans, stopped wearing them several years ago, they are just so uncomfortable. I wear a lot of tech pants, which are nice because they fit in most anywhere, and they are extremely comfortable. You can play 18 holes in them in the morning and then work in the yard all afternoon no problem. In New Mexico we also wear shorts pretty much year round which is nice. I know what people are talking about with some of the golf pants. I am a stocky individual, former college athlete who spent a good amount of my early years not skipping leg day, and if the pants fit in the waist they are skin tight on my legs. I am both and I look stunning in my white belt. If you go to your closet and have two belts, brown and black, you have to up your belt game. Don't be that guy wearing a brown belt with every outfit. Personally, I've got white, grey, navy, blue, brown, black, red, purple. My belt game is as strong as my golf game! My blue belt looks really good with my new Footjoys I just got!

I'm jumping on the bandwagon, Scotty Scheffler stays hot and wins (-14). The new world #1 is playing out of his mind!

Bogey-free 71 yesterday, 17 pars and a birdie. Kinda of a boring round really, hit it pretty well, but just couldn't get anything close, couldn't hit the par 5s in two, and when I missed the par 5s I missed in really bad places so I couldn't get up and down for birdie. I missed 8 fairways, but 6 of those were by less than 4 feet, only one drive on #2 actually had me in any trouble and I was able to punch out and get up and down. Missed five greens but only had to chip twice because the other misses were actually shortish putts from the collar. Pretty happy altogether, I have gone bogey free very few times in my life. Only problem was my buddy shot 30 on the front and I ended up paying out like an ATM. In my group, one birdie just doesn't cut it.

The courses here are dryer than a popcorn fart. Divots, if you can take one, disintegrate into a cloud of dust. I actually love it, hard and fast. Nothing worse than a soggy golf course, no roll, mud on the ball every time you hit it, brutal.

There's nothing quite like watching that same someone read that putt from both sides plumb bob it for 3 minutes then roll it in for a 7.

FWIW being a golf course employee for the last 17+ years, people that arrive 15 minutes or less before their tee times...you drive us crazy. In fact, at my course if you don't check in AT LEAST 15 minutes prior we can, will, and enjoy giving your time to people on the wait list. I mean come on, be on time, and showing up right at your tee time IS NOT being on time. If you're standing in the pro shop 5 minutes before your tee time, your chances of getting to the tee on time are highly diminished. If you are not on the tee at your time, you are now the fly in the ointment. It may seemed calloused, but I just have no patience for lateness. In fact it is probably my biggest pet peeve.

The only green reading apps I've seen on the iPhone actually use the phone's camera to scan the green and tell the player the line. Obviously, any app that does that would be illegal to begin with and you would not need to make a ruling one way or another. As far as a green reading book or app on a phone that provides a map, I wouldn't make them illegal because they cause slow play, I would deal with the slow play. There are ways you can monitor slow play. I have run several golf associations over the years including the now defunct Golf Channel Am Tour. The best rule you can put into play is the 4:30 minute round rule. 1. Groups must have their card turned in to the scorer within 4:45 of teeing off (4:30 plus 15 minutes to get in) or within 15 minutes of the group in front of them (in the case they are following a penalized group). 2. Groups that don't each player receives a 2 stroke penalty. It's as easy as that. FWIW..You can certainly penalize the group for slow play as most of the time it's not just 1 person, and it's everyone's responsibility as a group to get back into position if they fall behind. It's too easy to say, "I played with Bob today and he's slow so we took 5:30 to play." Well, get on Bob's ass and move him along. I've had to do it numerous times, sometimes people don't even realize they're slow until you tell them. Anyway, you'd be surprised how well that rule works. And depending on the course you can set different parameters, as some courses should not need 4:30 to play. Either way, deal with the specific problem don't beat around the bush and try to combat slow play indirectly.

The problem with the current announcers is they are, for the most part, really "old school" in the fact they were brought up and played in an era where they really didn't know that much about ball flight laws, and they didn't have stats like strokes gained. They were brought up on mantras like "Drive for show and putt for dough" and "the short game is the most important part of golf", and they unfortunately haven't evolved much. For the average person watching thats fine, but for anyone with any actual knowledge of the game it becomes a bombardment of poor analogies and outright inaccuracies. I mean if one more of those idiots says, "He's laying up to a good yardage", I'm going to puke. The worst part of it is it just helps to continue to push those outdated ideals, and I have to continue to argue with people.

I drive a gas guzzling Ram 2500 pickup truck, but gas prices won't affect how much I play as the course is less than 3 miles from the house. It is affecting how much I drive otherwise, and we cancelled a camping trip in a couple weeks because the cost of gas outside the city is even worse.

I refuse to wear more than a base layer, a polo, and a thin pullover, so my limit for cold is 45 degrees. Any colder than that is a no go. Since we see 50+ degrees most of the winter that's not an issue most of the time. I just cannot swing in big bulky clothes, so it makes playing not very much fun. We always walk which really helps playing on those colder mornings as well. Nothing gets the body heat going like walking, and the first hole at my course goes up a big hill so we are normally pulling the first layer pretty quickly.

I think hard work and practice for me made the biggest difference in my golf game, more so than any individual equipment purchase. I will say it made a big difference for me going to a blade iron from the more game-improvement cavity backs I had played prior.

^^This^^ We don't mean to beat you up @TexasSR75070, but as he said above you will find this forum is very skeptical of claims made by anyone that are not supported by REAL data. But don't worry about it, enjoy your Squairz, I am sure they're a great shoe. Just remember it could be worse, at least you didn't come forth with a "short game is more important than the long game argument"...then you would have gotten an earful!

As @Vinsk said it just doesn't work that way. They are shoes! They cannot possibly give someone a 7 stroke improvement in their handicap. And if he widened his base, though I doubt that makes much of a difference, that has nothing to do with the shoes he was wearing. I also doubt your claim as to gaining 7 yards of distance on average. First, you would need launch monitor data to back that up. You would need to get on a trackman and hit a number of drives with a regular pair of shoes and then do the same with the Sqairz. Anecdotal data from just playing golf on the course would be completely insufficient. You can't eyeball such an insignificant gain, and you can't be sure that any gain you did see that one time didn't come from hitting a firmer part of the fairway or any number of other variables. Hey as a kid I was alway way faster when I got a new pair of sneakers! Dude, it comes down to this...they are good shoes, I've heard they are very comfortable. They aren't all that aesthetically pleasing to me, but to each their own. They seem to be very durable as well. BUT there is no way they improve your game that much or add that much distance compared to other brands. It just isn't possible if you know anything about golf.

I've never done that on trackman per se, but I know my distances. Having that information would be just a baseline, as I almost never hit a full shot with my wedges, and I find myself hitting fewer and fewer full shots with my other clubs as well. For example, I can hit a 7 iron 200 yards if I really need to, but I am much more accurate hitting a 6 iron, or if certain conditions exist, maybe even a 5 or even a 4 iron. I became a much better player when I learned to play different shots in different situations instead of just always hitting a full shot regardless.

I don't think anyone really "knocked" Sqairz, but the going from an 18 handicap to 11 handicap by just changing shoes claim is just absolutely ridiculous. I know several people who really like their shoes, so I have no doubt they make a good product. That being said, I just know too much about golf to buy into the claims about all the extra distance, etc. A very smart person I know once said he could make statistics support just about anything.

@TexasSR75070 Would the SR in your name possibly stand for "Sqairz Rep" by chance?

We play that way too, it doubles the bet if you do it, so you win 6 or lose 6. You have to call it while your ball is in the air though.

Perhaps I've been playing wolf wrong for the last 30 years (I don't think so), but if you take a partner and win, you each get 1 dot, if you go at it alone you get 3 dots, one for each person you beat. Its risk/reward if you go alone you can win 3 times your bet but if you lose you have to pay all three.

Within your groups you can play robins. It's best ball, but you have each person in your foursome as a partner for 6 holes. My group plays it all the time, it's a lot of fun. We play for $5 a robin with automatic two down presses. We also play skins and greenies (CtP) in both our foursomes and as a large group. In the foursomes we play $1 skins, in the group we all kick in $20.