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Damn DJ hit the cabbage.

Never pulled for DJ so much before! Would love to see this come from behind!

Ooooooooooo getting crispy now!

Well, we were half right. No Tiger bounce back, but Brooks pulled away with a merely ‘solid’ round..

Voted for 90%. This poll and the replies are enlightening. I’m still working on going from ‘Overswing’ to ‘Swing’ in general. Seems like most better players chiming in here gear it down lower than that.. I always figured that it would be much harder to get consistent distances swinging less than ‘full’. I have always believed my distance control to be a (relative) strength. Or, at least, knowing what club was the ‘right’ one. Seemed like ‘know exactly how far you hit each club’ was sound advice. It’s certainly repeated enough. It still is, I think. I guess the distinction here is that there isn’t just one number per club, and that the highest reasonably achievable number may not be your most consistent. I can hit my 9i 150 (in some direction) on a good strike. But how often do I get a good strike? 10% of the time? 25%? Maybe (it now seems obvious to say) I’d play better hitting it 130 or 140 50% of the time, (and straighter, more often)? It all seems like common sense all laid out here in front of us. But so does (did?) “hitting it as far as I can ‘putting a good swing on it’, and knowing that number.” Seems like one way of thinking is a bit better for success. I think the quest that most golfers have for distance, -and to be fair, the proven benefit of controlled distance- have had too many of us, myself included leaning toward a more full effort per swing. Instead of thinking “I can hit it (x) far. Now just train to straighten it out” I’m now looking to figure out “how far can I hit this thing and keep it straight?” Insane that after spending 6 years playing, reading this forum, taking lessons, and loving golf, that this is just now permeating my skull. I think it’s been especially hard because being a bit of a larger guy, I have never actively ‘chased’ distance per se. I’ve always hit it pretty far without a tremendous amount of effort. But, having ‘enough’, distance, I’ve never thought to give any up voluntarily either..

I agree with this. But remember of course, Brooks doesn’t have to shoot 63 tomorrow. Anything around, or especially anything under par keeps him in a great position. Brooks shoots 66-70, and he’s still likely pulling away from the field some. Tiger is the one who needs the low round at some point. Heres to hoping he gets it! 🍺

Fun Fact: Tiger Woods is 3rd All-Time in wins on the European Tour, and has NEVER been a member. Sounds like a ‘Chuck Norris fact’, but is completely true. Astonishing!

Two that stand out on back to back holes from yesterday: First a Par 3, 205y, Tee and Green both elevated, deep valley between, backstop mounds around green. Hit 5w that bounced off the green and rested on one of the backstop mounds. Chipped on, two putted for bogey. Next, Short Par 4, 310y, downhill, bunkers on both sides of the green. Was playing alone, so hit my first shot, which felt great, and felt like it went left, but lost sight of it. Hit a provisional way right. Praying to find ball number 1... I find it in the left green side bunker! Of course I hit the ball itself out of the bunker, going bunker to bunker...I did hit it on the green next, using a proper sand explosion shot, then made the 5 footer for a Par. Even with the boneheaded first bunker shot, a great hole.

Fair point, and I support walking as well. My main issue was the attempt to equate walking on a golf course with military training and the assessment that they were the both good for you in the same way. To clarify, I think walking and playing golf regularly is generally great for someone, and doing 5-20 mile ruck marches is generally not.

I know your reply is a few weeks old, and the conversation has moved on, but this struck me.... All that ruck training is most certainly bad for one’s body, particularly joints and bones (shoulders, knees, hips, ankles, back). You may get and be strong carrying all that weight, and have the muscles to prove it while you’re in the military. While young, you can keep on (t)rucking. As you age, and especially if you keep it up... it WILL catch up with you and your joints/bones.

This was very cool to watch. I do still wonder specifically what the speed threshold is for a modern golf ball or club face where elasticity is lost and the materials transition to the plastic phase of deformation. This video gives us ballpark figures, and that’s cool enough, and rather surprising to me. Particularly how much abuse the modern balls can take.

Hey man, you’re a Pro, OK? There. I said it. On the Internet. That makes it true, right? I don’t see anything in this thread that suggests you’ll probably fail. I think we can close this thing out now, folks!

I’d play for the sweep if I were him. Odds are incredibly low, but that would be a hell of a run. I’d give it the old college try.

LMAO, nah, you’re probably just another dirty damn liar like the rest of us! 😂

And I’ll pay for your round and buy you a drink, too if I can’t substantiate my claims! We can play on a real course if you like, as well. Any game, I’m down.

No, not ‘basically proclaiming that was my average’, because, the other 4 shots are off the course (effectively zero yards, or even -150 as far as my average is concerned, depending on how you see it.) or 50-75 yards in front of me or something. 6/10 is not ‘a couple of shots’ either, though. It is my potential, but it’s not some extreme upper limit that I’m practically incapable of actually pulling off. It’s a very regular, (if not truly average) result. If you’re able to get to Yoko, message me at 070-1260-3145, Japanese number, so you’ll have to enter the country code or whatever, without a Japanese carrier.

Also, as I mentioned, but your roid-rage or whatever failed to read: I hit enough shitty shots (OB, tops, sky-balls) to drop my true average quite a bit. Probably more like the 220 or even less that you mentioned. This (among other things) would help account for the atrocious HC index I hold. Think of it like this: I “SMASH” a down-hiller 290-300 (fairly easy swing for me, FWIW), then on the next hole, hook one into Narnia OB. Guess what? My driving average is now 140-150. But on any given swing, with possibly 50% accuracy, I can very likely hit it as far, or further than you. No sweat. It’s not ‘male ego’ or lying. It’s just real life. I’m down for screen golf! You in Japan? I live in Yokosuka.

I probably do have a 105 mph driver swing on my best shots, yes. I’m only 31 years old, and I’m 6’2, with long arms, and I am definitley swing a 6i between 86-90 mph. Puts me in that category, yes. Again, I’m not carrying 300 or claiming so. Probably carrying 240-260, then adding roll. On a downhill hole? Yeah, that could be 300+. (And has been, a couple of times.) None of that is unreasonable. Sorry that you seem so upset that you can’t hit is so far, or whatever. Perhaps a driver fitting would help you? I don’t know.

I mean, I feel you. There are plenty of liars and exaggerators. And plenty of honest folks have exaggerated from time to time... But I really do hit a driver between 260-280 on well struck shots, (call it 6/10) and have hit several over 300 on the course in the short time I’ve had my new driver. - And I suck pretty bad, still. I slice and hook and sky-ball enough shots that my true average drive is shorter. But I can put it out there with fair regularity these days. And im not alone. Also, it’s probably fair to point out that anyone who CAN hit it that far, and who has seen an Internet golf forum, probably WILL mention it at a minimum, and brag about it fairly predictably. Maybe you do just play with short hitters. I’ve seen plenty of players better than me, but basically bogey golfers hit it well past me, and a few who are worse than me hit it further as well. And virtually everyone who I’ve played with who shoots in the 80’s or better hits it pretty far. With a new-technology club that fits you.. distance isn’t terribly hard to achieve these days for lots of players at various skill levels. Edit: To clerify, I don’t personally claim to CARRY 280. My carry is between 240-260 on the well-struck shots, with associated roll accounting for the total (obviously).

LMAO quote of the day!

Maybe I’m just simple, but how can one say that with 13 misses one way and 11 the other way that there’s no ‘two-way miss? Seems like if you are routinely missing in two different directions, is that not quite plainly the definition of a ‘two-way miss’.

Also, 266 is lower than all Open Championship scores except Stenson’s 264 in 2016, and is lower than any score ever at the Masters or US Open. Understanding that this years scoring was low for a major, this is all very impressive and encouraging, still.

Just a couple of notes about how good Tiger (and Brooks) were this week: 264 (Brooks) is the lowest winning score for a PGA Championship ever, and Tiger’s 266 would have won outright every stroke play PGA Championship ever, except for David Toms’ win at 265 in 2001, and would have tied Jimmy Walker at 266 in 2016. That’s 58 out of 61 stroke play PGA’s that would have been won outright. Also, looking at Tiger’s winning scores in all of his PGA Tour victories, 266 was better than 69 of the 79 overall.

4 Wins, 2 majors. Health staying where it’s at, (or dare I say, perhaps improving a bit?), plus the offseason to get his driver sorted, he’s gonna go off next year.

Fair play! I got confused, and I also forgot about the other Zach Johnson. Apologies for accusing you of not knowing. The (professional sports publication) article about Oosthuizen is still wrong though! Lol