• Announcements

    • iacas

      Create a Signature!   02/05/2016

      Everyone, go here and edit your signature this week: http://thesandtrap.com/settings/signature/.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Tbailes

Looking for help with a high push and a snap hook miss

23 posts in this topic

Hello everyone, recently I have been struggling with a high push to the right and a snap hook that goes hard left.  I have been striking the ball dead center on most of my shots but where it is going is my biggest concern.

I am currently playing around a 10 handicap, but my scores can vary since I used to be a 3 handicap about 4 years ago before I went to college.  One day I can shoot 74 then next 94 and the inconsistencies are driving me nuts!!

Below are a couple of videos of my swing, any help or suggested drills would be greatly appreciated.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Want to get rid of this advertisement? Sign up (or log in) today! It's free!

Take my advice with a grain of salt as I am relatively new to the game (about a year or so) but it looks like you're coming OTT. That could explain both of those misses. Try to pause the video and you can see it.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looks like a very good swing to me. The only thing I could see in the top one was if I quick paused it, it looks at the very top of the swing you start leaning forward (towards your toe line) on the way down i.e. your upper body gets lower.   In the 2nd one, not so much. Even so, really nice looking swings.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by LI Hacker

Take my advice with a grain of salt as I am relatively new to the game (about a year or so) but it looks like you're coming OTT. That could explain both of those misses. Try to pause the video and you can see it.

A push is a path well to the right and a face that matches.

A snap hook is almost always a path to the right with a face well to the left (often generally pointing at the target).

Neither of those things are "over the top." Both are in fact closer to the opposite.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards and Achievements

Originally Posted by iacas

A push is a path well to the right and a face that matches.

A snap hook is almost always a path to the right with a face well to the left (often generally pointing at the target).

Neither of those things are "over the top." Both are in fact closer to the opposite.

Sounds a little like either a timing issue or ball placement issue then? Same swing path but club face in different directions.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards and Achievements

It looks like at the top of the swing that the OP is going to come over the top and then it looks like he tucks the right arm and comes from the inside.

To the OP I struggle with these misses from time to time as well.  The path is consistently coming from the inside, but the face angle changes for some reason.  I had troubles this morning.  I lined up to play my fade and twice hit pull hooks and once a big push fade.  I am finding that a couple things are often not right when I am doing this.  I have strayed away from my tempo, and I also start adding tension into the swing.  I think those might be some of the things that cause it for me.  Maybe just try and focus in and make mental notes on your tempo, and the amount of tension when you swing it well so you can try and go back to it when you start struggling.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards and Achievements

In the bottom swing you hit it way off the toe! If you are hitting low hooks I would address your grip and or make sure you are not forcing your hands to turn over through impact.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards and Achievements

I am pretty sure, and I have gone through it, both of those misses are symptoms of getting the club stuck behind you. But I am not trained to diagnose or anything so maybe someone can tell you exactly why that is happening.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

you need to close the face 2.4 degrees in relation to the swing path. By doing this you will develop a nice baby shank draw

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by kw purp

you need to close the face 2.4 degrees in relation to the swing path. By doing this you will develop a nice baby shank draw

Um, what?

First of all, that makes no sense and you have no stats to go off of in terms of stating a number like that.

Secondly, the OP stated two problems.. one of which is a snap hook. How is closing the face more , when a closed face is causing this problem, going to fix that problem?

Last, but certainly not least, the OP needs to read this because someone that is qualified to offer advice has already stated what is most likely causing the 2 undesired results:

Originally Posted by iacas

A push is a path well to the right and a face that matches.

A snap hook is almost always a path to the right with a face well to the left (often generally pointing at the target).

Neither of those things are "over the top." Both are in fact closer to the opposite.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by kw purp

By doing this you will develop a nice baby shank draw

He said s***k. BAN HIM

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards and Achievements

Originally Posted by iacas

A push is a path well to the right and a face that matches.

A snap hook is almost always a path to the right with a face well to the left (often generally pointing at the target).

Neither of those things are "over the top." Both are in fact closer to the opposite.

I prefaced with the grain of salt comment. Also, I was just judging from the video as we can't see the ball flight. As someone else noticed it certainly looks like he is about to come OTT but may end up dropping to the inside, without a lower frame rate its hard to really tell exactly whats happening. At least in my eyes.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by Spyder

Um, what?

First of all, that makes no sense and you have no stats to go off of in terms of stating a number like that.

Secondly, the OP stated two problems.. one of which is a snap hook. How is closing the face more, when a closed face is causing this problem, going to fix that problem?

Last, but certainly not least, the OP needs to read this because someone that is qualified to offer advice has already stated what is most likely causing the 2 undesired results:

By closing the face 2.4 degrees with the toe pointing at his left knee cap, he will invert his swing plane causing a 360 degree club face rotation during the swing and hit a straight ball.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

By closing the face 2.4 degrees with the toe pointing at his left knee cap, he will invert his swing plane causing a 360 degree club face rotation during the swing and hit a straight ball.

Please tell us that you have a prescription for those drugs you're taking...... :-\

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards and Achievements

Originally Posted by kw purp

you need to close the face 2.4 degrees in relation to the swing path. By doing this you will develop a nice baby shank draw

Nothing wrong with hitting a shank, it is the good player's miss.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards and Achievements

Originally Posted by kw purp

By closing the face 2.4 degrees with the toe pointing at his left knee cap, he will invert his swing plane causing a 360 degree club face rotation during the swing and hit a straight ball.

Um... again, where do you get the 2.4 from? You have no data to go off of to back your illogical attempt at "helping" the OP.

This is like David in FL saying "Hey Spyder, I can't dunk..." and me saying "Yeah, you need to flex your knee approximately 2.4° prior to launch and you will dunk", without knowing any other data.

In school, you completed multiple choice tests without reading the questions didn't you? Either that or you have some type of NSA software which allowed you to enhance the OPs video, zoom in on the club face and see exact degrees.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by Spyder

Um... again, where do you get the 2.4 from? You have no data to go off of to back your illogical attempt at "helping" the OP.

This is like David in FL saying "Hey Spyder, I can't dunk..." and me saying "Yeah, you need to flex your knee approximately 2.4° prior to launch and you will dunk", without knowing any other data.

In school, you completed multiple choice tests without reading the questions didn't you?

I think he may be being sarcastic.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards and Achievements

Originally Posted by cipher

I think he may be being sarcastic.

So am I, but I can have fun with him nonetheless. Slow day...

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • 2016 TST Partners

    GAME Golf
    PING Golf
    Golf Evolution
  • Posts

    • Iron Game Suffers when Driver Going Well
      For high handicappers myself included, this is typical.   I think it is b/c we don't have the same swing for irons and longer clubs.  If we get them both right in the same round, it is probably by pure luck or coincidence.  Grin and bear, and enjoy the journey.
    • Jack or Tiger: Who's the Greatest Golfer?
      The topic title is the question who is the greatest golfer, the poll is the question who was the best. Two different things in my opinion. There's no doubt to me Tiger was a better golfer. How could he not? Spieth, McIlroy, Day but even guys like Wiesberger, Luiten and Donaldson play better golf than Jack. The game evolved so much over the years, and got so much more professional. If Jack would have been around in this era he would benefit from all that as well and be a better golfer than he was (and probably top those guys I just mentioned). But who was the greatest. How do you measure that (can you)? Tiger was dominant in a stronger field, winning more titles than you can count. Jack was the first of a kind, winning the biggest titles (majors) over an enourmous span and having the most of them. Isn't it mostly a matter of personal who you find 'greater'? For me Johan Cruyff is the greatest Dutch football player of time, but I have no doubt that Dennis Bergkamp and Arjen Robben were/are better because the game evolved. 
    • Making a Murderer Discussion Thread (Spoilers Likely)
      Obvisously... she took his case about a month ago. On one hand I hope Avery is guilty as hell, on the other hand it would be an amazing story and twist if turns out to be set up and she can prove that. I think that chance is less than 1%, but still..... Possibly, good point. Should be quite some blood though since they found 'drops', meaning it was dripping from (in this theory) his glove. Exactly my point. I don't think the blood was freely flowing, because than there should be a lot more blood in the car. They found blood consisting with bloody hair. Seems to me, and I know I'm not an expert, that she was already dead when she was in the car, because that would explain the little amount of blood found (no pumping of the heart, no flow of blood) and the place it was found (in the back). One can easily argue that he killed in the garage, moved her to the car, and only then got the plan to burn her instead and moved her again; to the pit. But the 'problem' is that that's not what the DA said what happenend. In my opinion that blood in the car contradicts the story (or truth) he wants us and the jury to believe, and contradicts also with the story of Dassey which is the only thing that links Dassey to the case: his own words. That doesn't mean Avery is innocent, but it might raise some doubt. The DA should stick with the facts, not filling in the blanks with guessing. If he can't prove exact chronologically he shouldn't state it as 'fact'.   Absolutely. I'm not convinced in anything, not in my opinion, not in yours, not at all in the people who made the documentary. Also not a fan of conspiracy theory's. I don't think the murder was planted on him, but I do think some mistakes were made by the justice system. Mistakes that possibly should have lead to his and maybe even more Dassey's release, even though there's a big chance he did it. That's for me perhaps the most interesting part in this case and in the discussion. If we want a justice system where the chance is close to 0% that we convict someone innocent, and the prosecution and police need to follow the rules, it means sometimes the guilty walk free. I think everything they found on the compount while Manitowoc detectives were present should have been excluded. I think the DNA on the blood of the bullet should have been excluded. I think the 'confession' of Dassey should have been excluded. I think Dassey should have given at least a new trial, but that was denied by the same judge which handled his initial case (?!).
    • Jack or Tiger: Who's the Greatest Golfer?
      A long time ago, by Tiger's own admission,  said a golfer's career is measured by "majors won" . So if Woody does not break Jack's major record, then according to Woody, his career will be second to Jack's. Now Jack has said that he expects (expected) Woody to break his major record. So Jack is saying he expects Woody will have the better career.  These are the only two guys who would know who had the best career.   Neither one is going to be the GOAT. They will just be a GOTE. 
    • Jack or Tiger: Who's the Greatest Golfer?
      Nope, you blindly worship Jack.  It is obvious that you have not read much, if any, of the thread.  But hey, you saw Jack.  In person, yet.  So what.  I did too.  I saw him win his last USGA championship at Cherry Hills.  I saw Tiger play as well - although in person I only saw practice rounds.  So what.  That does not make my assessment of their respective careers more or less credible.  Geee, I never saw Hogan play so I guess we cannot count him in the discussion.   You think Jack was better.  That is fine.  You are entitled to your opinion.  Just don't spoil it with specious reasons or arguments.  Because those we will slice apart like one of Klinger's salamis.  
  • TST Blog Entries

  • Images

  • Today's Birthdays

    No users celebrating today
  • Blog Entries