Back problems?

**justinmill14** · August 8, 2008

well i went out to shoot a round of golf today and was feeling fine until the 5th or 6th hole, after that my left shoulder bone, the part thats on my back (i dk if its consider shoulder) started hurting, mainly when i was driving. Do u guys know as to why this might be happening

**JackLee** · August 8, 2008

In the down and through swing, your left shoulder, and indeed, all of your body movements must lead your arm swing. If that is not happening, it is quite possible to injure yourself.

You might want to try the instruction that I use, “The Golf Swing and It’s Master Key Explained” by Noel Thomas. This advocates controlling your overall swing with your left shoulder. You should find that this “left shoulder control” will make the rest of your body movements automatic, including making your hips lead your downswing. Then your left shoulder will be pulling your arms, hands, and club down and through impact.

This is actually the swing that most pros use, powered by the pivot of the body. I could never do it very well until I found this instruction.

Of course you may have to let your injury heal first.

**titaniummd** · August 8, 2008

well i went out to shoot a round of golf today and was feeling fine until the 5th or 6th hole, after that my left shoulder bone, the part thats on my back (i dk if its consider shoulder) started hurting, mainly when i was driving. Do u guys know as to why this might be happening

http://rad.usuhs.edu/medpix/medpix.h...ter&pt;_id=8657

Chronic repetitive stresses from sports such as golf, especially in a relatively de-conditioned “weekend athletes”, can cause musculoskeletal injuries. In particular, rib fractures have been seen in patients who are avid golfers, commonly misdiagnosed as “back strains”. ... Eighteen golfers were beginners, and one golfer was more experienced, who substantially intensified his practice regimen. Sixteen of these golfers had fractures on the leading arm side of the thorax, as in this case (the patient is right-handed, and her left side would be the leading side in the typical golf stance). .

http://rad.usuhs.edu/medpix/tf_case....d=8657#discuss

ktm7385 · December 27, 2008

after that my left shoulder bone, the part thats on my back (i dk if its consider shoulder) started hurting, mainly when i was driving. Do u guys know as to why this might be happening

Had the same exact problem and was diagnosed with an inflamed disc in my thoracic vertabrae. Only cure is rest and anti-inflamatories. Not saying thats what u have, not a doctor, just relating. Wasn't caused by golf, but definitely aggravated by the repetitive nature of an incorrect golf swing. I tend to hit a lot of balls when I go to the range and as I tire, my swing gets thrown off. Instead of just stopping, I used to try to power through it. That resulted in 4 weeks off of work and 3 months away from golf. Long story short, it came down to the realization that golf is indeed a sport and, unless you have killer genes, sport specific flexibility and conditioning, as well as the common sense to stop when it hurts

(not my strong suit!!)

, must be maintained.

**grantc79** · December 27, 2008

well i went out to shoot a round of golf today and was feeling fine until the 5th or 6th hole, after that my left shoulder bone, the part thats on my back (i dk if its consider shoulder) started hurting, mainly when i was driving. Do u guys know as to why this might be happening

I would get a face front view of you swinging a long iron or wood on video and then look at it in slow motion.

I would almost guarantee that you have a serious chicken wing problem with your long clubs. The best way to illustrate this is to show you a swing vision youtube video: Notice how his left arm rolls through impact and stays straight until he reaches his waist when his left arm hinges upward. A lot of players will not keep that arm straight and let it roll. They will simply keep the left arm straight and when its time for it roll it bends at the elbow until it cannot bend anymore and then the shoulder and collarbone area will absorb all that energy. I had a really bad case of this for awhile. It only showed up with the driver, fairway woods, hybrids, and long irons because with the rest my arms would just fold naturally but with those the higher swing speed caused issues. The pain was so bad I couldn't sleep and had a lot of stiffness and pain in my shoulder and collarbone especially. Here's a good video of how to diagnose it and cure it. Putting a headcover under your left arm pit will work. I would go out to the range and hit your driver a few times and hold your finish and see if you can see the fingers on your left hand (if you are a rightie) at finish. Another way would be to see how your upper arm looks at your finishing posture. It should be pretty much parallel to the ground with the elbow pointing down range and toward the ground. If you have a chicken wing it is probably pointed directly behind your position at address.

**mm6840** · December 27, 2008

I would get a face front view of you swinging a long iron or wood on video and then look at it in slow motion.

Hi,

can't agree with yours explanation at all. Because it's depending on type of swing (your's idea is he's 2 planer) and more ... chicken wing and shoulder injury are not related (at least not for my knowledge). Usually it's simple : too much arms swing with too much hacking in the ground. b/w : headcover drill is for one plane swing

and TW driver swing is 2 plane (mixing different things) regards,

**grantc79** · December 28, 2008

Hi,

Well, you might have never had that problem but I had several pain in my shoulder and collar bone due to that exact problem.

Just do a little test..... Pick up a club and make a slow motion forward swing, but instead of letting your left arm roll, your elbow bend, and arm fold upward you should just bend the elbow only. So don't let anything happen but elbow bend, leave the rest right where it is. You'll quickly find that your elbow will only bend so much and after that your shoulder, collar bone, and even neck will start feeling the pressure. Now add in about 100+ MPH worth of club head speed energy pushing on that shoulder and collar bone and see what happens. You can say that I'm crazy, but I have gone through that EXACT problem and seen myself do EXACTLY what I told him about on a high speed camera during a golfing lesson. I fixed the problem and haven't had pain in that area since. Now he might have some other problem, and he might not have a chicken wing issue. But a chicken wing problem with DEFINITELY cause the pains that he is having, especially with those certain clubs.

**grantc79** · December 28, 2008

Here is a link discussing it:

http://www.golf-trainer.com/golf-inj...lder-pain.html

You could also check out T.P.I. and see what all they have to say about it.

**mm6840** · December 28, 2008

Here is a link discussing it:

Hi,

Thanks, very informative link. Maybe I dont fully understand the problem. My point was ... that i read too many times confusing (for me) advices about how to swing... regards,

**grantc79** · December 28, 2008

Hi,

I understand.

I'm definitely not telling anyone that they should hit, swing, stack and tilt, single plane, dual plane, or anything else. But there are some things that are just fundamentally bad with a golf swing and having a chicken wing follow through is definitely a bad thing that will lead to quite a bit of joint and muscle pain but also inconsistency as well.

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