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Has anyone else ever overheard or been given really bad advice while at the range or course.

I was at the range today there were three guys on my right, two of the guys couldn't really hit the ball past 10 yards and the other guy grounded most of his shots ~50 yards. Anyway I heard the guy duffing the ball tell the other two that all you have to do is use your arms only and not your body, He said "The golf swing is all arms keep you body completely still throughout the swing"

It was depressing to watch the other two guys try to swing while staying completely still...

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Has anyone else ever overheard or been given really bad advice while at the range or course.

WOW.....obviously that guy has never watched a pro golf swing a day in his life.

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wait, your supposed to move your body. That should help a ton LMFAO

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I was a local range a couple weeks ago, when a group of 3 meatheads showed up - they were obviously athletes of some sort (i think baseball players) and they were just digging up the grass and swinging like hell

one guy was doing better than the others, just CREAMING his driver - but he was topping maybe 1 out of 4 of them. The worst guy game him the 'you gotta just keep your head down' and then he went on to not hit a decent drive in his next ten tries, and he just quit and said something like 'this is just a retarded sport'...

it was a shame because the guy obviously had some innate talent. Being that most of us take the game seriously enough to know some of the basics of a solid swing, its easy to forget how mysterious it can all be when you are just starting out with no proper instruction at all -

that was me a few years ago when I'd go out 3-5 times a year with friends. I had made up my whole swing, and the misconceptions of what i was supposed to be doing were vast. I just thought if I practiced more I'd be fine. Fast forward to my first lessons last year, where I thought the pro would have one or two magic bullets for me to become a decent golfer and low and behold, I was no where close to having a repeatable swing. It was shocking to me at the time that I could have been so far off
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That's the weird thing about golf. People that don't golf think every swing is created equal, like you can swing the club from any angle and it's gonna go 200 yards down the fairway, well as we know it doesn't work that way.

THEN they finally realize what we were all talking about when we tried to tell them that this game isn't easy. There has to be alot of things correct in order for the ball to go straight, high and long(and where you wanted it to).

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It goes beyond that in some cases. I see people yelling at their kids to keep their left arm straight and their head down.

I've seen the "swing with only your arms" thing too.

The opposite once, too: a friend of mine, who introduced me to golf in the first place, but isn't very good, told me once he had trouble getting under the ball, and thus his iron striking was suffering.

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My girlfriend and I were at the range hitting some buckets one afternoon. Fairly quiet, only a couple others there, until these two "homies" arrived. Within minutes all we could here was kaabang, as golf balls ricocheted off the roof over the mat area. Amidst the commotion, I heard them say a few times "swing as hard as you can" and "use the big one, thats how you get the ball to go far(I'm assuming the driver or wood type club)"

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I really can't help myself butting in these conversations. I'm a newbie golfer myself, but if people mess up the basics (i.e. the part I do understand) I always try to correct them.

Most of the time they're grateful, sometimes the guy doing the instructing is a little bit annoyed. But when they spend an hour doing everything wrong, they might be turned off the game permanently, which would be a shame...
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I actually went with my friend from work to the range. He wanted me to help him. He can't break 100 and I am a nut. The only things I told him were why he slices the ball and the importance of hitting down on the ball. Honestly, I had no idea how to fix him. The issue is he wanted a quick fix. There was not one to be had. He had to change so much that he would get so much worse and it was my belief that if he is going to go through that, he should make sure he knows what he is doing is right and directly from someone who knows how to help people and not me.

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If I had a penny for every time I heard, "Keep your head down." When I hear this, I picture my chin plastered to my chest and shoulders tensed up intently staring at this white sphere with dimples. This has been labeled THE fix for any golf swing I think. What I tell myself instead is "Focus on the ball and let your right shoulder pull your head up".

- Shane

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The worst advice I ever recieved, from a player I was beating badly, was 'Dont look at the ball, keep your head forward, looking at the target, through the entire swing' .

This was when I first started playing.

Funny thing is, after a year, with plenty of lessons, im down to a 14 handicap, which im happy about. This guys been playing twice as long, wont take advice from anyone, has yet to break 105, and he still tries to give others advice!

I dont even play with him anymore because he's such a know it all.

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Reminds me of that "I Love Lucy" episode when Fred & Ricky decide to mess with the girls by telling 'em all sorts of stupid stuff so they'll give up.

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I was at the range recently when an older gentleman and I assume his grand child setup next to me. The child is probably 8 or so and wants nothing more than just make some swings and see if he can hit the ball. The older guy keeps telling him that he needs to "transfer his weight," "keep good tempo," and "keep your head down."

What 8 year old would seriously benefit from that advice?

After a few minutes the older guy says "no, no... let me show you." Grabs and club and proceeds to hit it out into the range. He had a decent swing for someone his age and actually made contact with the ball, but again, how's that helping the kid? He's suppose to watch you hit one out there 150 yards and magically be able to do it too?

There are some dumb people in this world.
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He had a decent swing for someone his age and actually made contact with the ball, but again, how's that helping the kid? He's suppose to watch you hit one out there 150 yards and magically be able to do it too?

Actually, sure. Kids are often great mimics.

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True. Children are usually better than adults in that regard, but a lot of them aren't good. I think this was one of those times. I could tell the kid was getting frustrated.

I was at the range the other day and saw a kid who was about 10 or 11 at the range with his dad. His dad had a horrible swing, but the kid looked really good. I hope his dad won't be giving him advice in the new few years.

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There's a 15/16 year old boy at the range i go to, hits it pretty solid and swings it well.. his grandad goes to the range every time and after EVERY shot the kid hits he interjects with a bit of 'golf knowledge' that contradicts itself every time... its frustrating as no.1 the advice is useless and no.2 its hard to concentrate when you have a bloke saying "NO NO, keep your right arm straight" or "SEE how much better was that when you kept your head level"... how many different things must this poor boy be thinking of when he swings.

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