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Thinking of moving my Hogan Hybrid to the closet. It doesn't perform as I would like out of the secondary (shorter) rough. It's good off the tee and fairway and first cut, but so is my driver. I want something i can get in the air that i can shape and land softly on the green. I have a fairly high trajectory with my long irons and fairway wood. Would like the same from my hybrid. Tried putting lead tape to raise the trajectory, still not satisfactory so I'm in the market. Any suggestions?

In my OU Bag: Driver 9.5 Neutral Fujikura Motore Stiff
3 Wood Big Bertha
Hybrid 21 degree
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Thinking of moving my Hogan Hybrid to the closet. It doesn't perform as I would like out of the secondary (shorter) rough. It's good off the tee and fairway and first cut, but so is my driver. I want something i can get in the air that i can shape and land softly on the green. I have a fairly high trajectory with my long irons and fairway wood. Would like the same from my hybrid. Tried putting lead tape to raise the trajectory, still not satisfactory so I'm in the market. Any suggestions?

look at the hybrids from gigagolf, their pretty cheap, and they have a 30 day play gurantee, so if you dont like it you can send it back for a full refund as long as its had normal play and no abuse.. but trust me, you wont be disappointed.

:cobra: Speed ld-f 10.5 Stiff
:snake_eyes: 3 & 5 Woods
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:bridgestone: J33 Forged Irons 4-pw
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I have tried most hybrids, and the one that stood out for me was the Cobra Baffler DWS. His is a 2- or 3-year old club, so you can get them fairly cheap from eBay. I had the new Cobra TWS for awhile, and fount it was no better than the DWS. So now I play with 2 Cobra DWS hybrids - a 4 (20-degrees) and a 3 (26-degrees). I love them both! They have a nice high ball flight, so that they sit down nicely on greens on longer approach shots. By the way, the 'DWS' refers to double weighting on eht back side, and the "TWS' is triple weighing.
Good luck.
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Mizuno MPCLK hybrid

I can work the ball both ways with it and I am a 20 hcap

Nice mid ball flight as well - goes miles

Taylormade RBZ 10.5 driver, Taylormade Burner 2.0 15 deg 3 wood, Mizuno JPX800 19deg hybrid, Taylormade Burner 2.0 4-PW, Titleist Vokey 52,56,60 rusty wedges, Odyssey White Ice #7 360gm tour weight, Bridgestone B330S

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I really like my Wilson Fybrids, which can be had for <$50 brand new from Rockbottom and other sites. Very neutral at setup so more workable; i hit a pretty low ball normally but the Fybrids have a higher trajectory for me. Quality components (stock shaft is UST V2, grip is Golf Pride) as well. At that price you almost can't lose even if you end up not liking it.

Driver: Cleveland Classic 270, 10.5*
Fairway Woods: Adams Speedline LP (3 & 5)
Hybrids: Wilson Staff Fybrids 21*, 24*, UST V2 stiff
Irons: Callaway X-20 Tour, 5-PW, Rifle Project-X (flighted) 6.0
Wedges: Cleveland CG15 DSG 52* & 58* +/- 56* Niblick

Putter: Yes! Amy

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I love my Callaway X series 21* hybrid. Has a great feel and sounds like a fairway wood off the face. It can be found on the cheap too...
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Test hit different varieties. If you tend to draw the ball, I would try a pro model with a square face. Other posters have complained about some hybrids being a hook machine , and I think face angle might be at play here.

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Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:image.png.b6c3447dddf0df25e482bf21abf775ae.pngInertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
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Try hitting the Adams A7 hybrid. Of course you will need to decide on the 19* or 22*. I started with the 19* and just added the 22* in place of my 4 iron.

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3W: callaway.gif RAZR 15*
Hybrids : adams.gif A7 19*
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I just scored a brand new Nickent 4dx from Ebay for a cool $30...tough to beat that deal.

Cobra LTDx 10.5* | Big Tour 15.5*| Rad Tour 18.5*  | Titleist U500 4-23* | T100 5-P | Vokey SM7 50/8* F, 54/10* S, SM8 58/10* S | Scotty Cameron Squareback No. 1 | Vice Pro Plus  

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+ another 1 for the Cobra dws hybrid. So solid and easy to hit. The Aldila shaft you get it a lot of them is great too. I am putting mine back in the bag till i find myself a cheap Ping G5 5 wood <-- sweeeeeeet
What I Play:
Wilson Mini Stand Bag | PING G10, 10.5°, Proforce V2 HL S | PING G5, 15°, 18°, Aldila NV 75 S | PING G5, 19°, Aldila VS Proto By You 80 S
Mizuno MX200 4-PW S | Ping Tour W 50/12 X | Ping Tour W 58/TS X | A selection of putters, all 35.5 inches.
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I love my Callaway X series 21* hybrid. Has a great feel and sounds like a fairway wood off the face. It can be found on the cheap too...

I have played the Hogan CFT Ti and the Callaway X series. I still like the old Heavenwood series better.

The ball seems to explode off the club for me compared to playing the other hybrids. Seeing how this model is from about 05-06 era, you could either try buying it from Callaway Preowned, or the new Diablo looks inviting. Comparing to the HW , it looks like it has a larger face. Some of the higher HCP players might like that. Thinking about trying one myself later this year.

Driver: X460 tour- 9.5*
3-wood: 3+ - 13*
Hybrid: BB HW 20*
Hybrid: 24*
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i got my Nike SQ Sumo for like $70 I think. Can't complain.

DST Tour 9.5 Diamana Whiteboard
909F3 15* 3 FW stock Aldila Voodoo
909F3 18* 5 FW stock Aldila Voodoo
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I just went through this same dilemma. I have a Cobra DWS 4 Hybrid that I love. I went to the shop to try to find a TWS on sale and did. I hit it but felt like comparing it to something else. I hit the Adams A7 OS and a Ping Rapture. I absolutely LOVED the rapture. I went in set on buying the TWS as that was most similar to what I had but couldn't pass up the Rapture after hitting both. YMMV but i think you have to hit them to tell the difference.
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I've been playing the Titleist 909H, 21 degree, Diamana shaft this year and absolutely love it. The ball gets up quickly and levels off, no balooning. It has a nice feel at impact and cuts through the rough pretty well.

My league partner has the TM Raylor which he loves. He hits it well from the rough and fairway. The only thing I noticed is that he has a draw to serious hook most of the time while he hits a slight fade with most of his other clubs.

In my BagBoy Clip-Lok bag:

Driver: Titleist 909 D2
3 Wood: Callaway X tour (alternates with 2H hybrid depending on the course)
Hybrid: Titleist 909H 21 degreeIrons: Titleist AP2 4-PW, PX 5.5 flighted shaftWedges: Titleist Spin Milled 52 degree, Taylor Made Rac Black TP 56 and 60 deg.Putter:...

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