ProV1 or Prov1X?

**jcard71** · May 18, 2007

Im a digger, so I've never had a problem with my ball stopping on the green.

I've been playing the Prov since it came out and recently thought about switching to the PROV1X for that added distance and I was wondering if anyone else has switched and what are your thoughts...My driver swing speed is 95-99mph.

Please don't post telling me how the "srixon" or top flight is a better ball and I'm wasting my money..blah blah blah..

My opinion: There is the the PROV and then every other ball...

**i-Guy** · May 18, 2007

My driver swing speed is 95-99mph.

If I understand correctly, I think the ProV1x is for faster swing speeds? Also it does not spin as much as the ProV1. I have a Driver speed of 110-115 so I tried the ProV1x and liked it but I LOVE the feel of the ProV1. I am actually in the process of testing the Callaway HX Tour 56 to see how it compares to the ProV1.

I will post soon.

**niblick** · May 18, 2007

As I understand it, with a swing speed of <100 mph, you're not compressing the ball enough to get any added distance from the V1x.

**NM Golf** · May 18, 2007

Please don't post telling me how the "srixon" or top flight is a better ball and I'm wasting my money..blah blah blah..

Ditto on the ProV1 thing, I agree there is not a better ball than a Titleist. As far as your question, I have a swing speed over 120 but I'll give you my thoughts. I use a prov1 in the winter time. It is a bit softer and spins more to help me hold those hard winter greens. In the summer I switch to the Prov1x because the greens soften up and I find that I spin the ProV1 too much. As far as distance goes I hit the ProV1x a bit farther than the Prov1, but not much. The two things I see that sets them apart, for me, is the prov1 is softer and spins considerably more. Distance wise I don't see as much difference.

**lamebums** · May 18, 2007

Please don't post telling me how the "srixon" or top flight is a better ball and I'm wasting my money..blah blah blah..

I guess I can't convince you...but Pro V1's, at a wallet-wounding $45.99 a dozen...

There is the ProV and then every other, affordable ball...

But in all seriousness, the Pro V1x only adds distance if you swing really fast, over 100mph. Best to stick with the regular Pro V1.

***iacas*** · May 18, 2007

As I understand it, with a swing speed of <100 mph, you're not compressing the ball enough to get any added distance from the V1x.

That's generally true.

But I humbly suggest the original poster is going about this the wrong way. The distance you'll gain from a Pro V1 to a Pro V1x is minimal. Say, 5-10 yards off the driver and significantly less off the irons. In fact, you'd be lucky to hit one less club into most par fours - I haven't seen your launch conditions, but some people may benefit from a little lower launch like the V1 over the V1x. Anyway, I say backwards because the performance around the greens is where the two balls will really differ. Start there - putting, chipping, pitching, and half or 3/4 wedge shots - and see which one you like the most. Then use that one, driver distance be damned, because last time I checked you use driver only about 14 times per round MAX, but you hit shots inside of 100 yards about 4x to 5x as frequently. That's the performance you want.

**mybloodinvt** · May 19, 2007

to say that the pro v's are the best balls out there, well, i just think the results on tour don't support statement. that they are a great ball is not in dispute, either. but if the pro v's are the best ball out there, then lefty would not have won with a callaway, stenson would not have won with a srixon, appleby would not have won with a bridgestone ( i can't remember if he has won this year), and tiger would not have won with a nike ball. all those balls are just as good as the titleist and a few less greenbacks. i don't have anything against pro v's, i got a dozen in the truck right now, i'm just sayin'...

***iacas*** · May 19, 2007

to say that the pro v's are the best balls out there, well, i just think the results on tour don't support statement. that they are a great ball is not in dispute, either. but if the pro v's are the best ball out there, then lefty would not have won with a callaway, stenson would not have won with a srixon, appleby would not have won with a bridgestone ( i can't remember if he has won this year), and tiger would not have won with a nike ball. all those balls are just as good as the titleist and a few less greenbacks. i don't have anything against pro v's, i got a dozen in the truck right now, i'm just sayin'...

If you're going to try to make such a silly argument, at least make sure your own logic is foolproof.

Your logic isn't. "Best" doesn't imply "only" - something can be "best" for the majority (Titleist is still the #1 ball played on the PGA Tour) but not for everyone. Every golfer has their own "best," but when you're talking about overall, you have to go with popularity, not whatever else. And popularity isn't always a good way to determine "best" - is a Toyota "better" than a Bentley? Depends on your definition of "best."

**CG031** · May 19, 2007

We get Prov1's in my high school matches free, sometimes we get prov1x's (but rarely)..to be honest i cant tell the difference.

**mybloodinvt** · May 19, 2007

erik, thanks for the response, i am honored. my response was only to the original poster in which he/she said, there are pro v's and then there is everything else, or words to that effect. ie; every ball out there is inferior to a titleist. my intent was only to point out that if that were the case, no one would win with anything but a titleist. clearly, that is not the case. as far as making a logical argument, well, i never gave it a thought.

**GolfnGriff** · May 19, 2007

Funny this thread got started... This morning I played the front nine with a prov x then the back with the pro v. I could not tell the difference at all. The prov's are a great ball and that is all I really play. But I have found that when you are truly on your game you could be playing with a prostaff and still post a good score.

***iacas*** · May 19, 2007

Funny this thread got started... This morning I played the front nine with a prov x then the back with the pro v. I could not tell the difference at all. The prov's are a great ball and that is all I really play. But I have found that when you are truly on your game you could be playing with a prostaff and still post a good score.

The differences, even Titleist will tell you, are closer than most people imagine.

Still, I can tell the difference. Maybe not in a single shot blind test, but in playing different types of shots, particularly around the greens.

**Will** · May 19, 2007

The differences, even Titleist will tell you, are closer than most people imagine.

Try the new Top-Flite D2 Feel, I've been playing it the last few days, I like it a lot. Has as good or better driver distance than the Pro v1, more iron distance, and seems as good around the greens.

***iacas*** · May 20, 2007

Try the new Top-Flite D2 Feel, I've been playing it the last few days, I like it a lot. Has as good or better driver distance than the Pro v1, more iron distance, and seems as good around the greens.

Mmmm, me playing a Top-Flite... I don't quite see that. Plus, our golf season is so short (relatively) that I don't like to mess too much with things when I have no reason to. This is one of those times: I have no reason to use anything but a Pro V1x.

titleistguy · May 20, 2007

From what I understand according to the recent podcast about the ProV's, the V1 is the higher launching and the V1x is the lower launching ball for faster swingers, so if all you're concerned about is distance off the tee consider your launch angle and swing speed to determine which one is better for you.

***iacas*** · May 20, 2007

From what I understand according to the recent podcast about the ProV's, the V1 is the higher launching and the V1x is the lower launching ball for faster swingers, so if all you're concerned about is distance off the tee consider your launch angle and swing speed to determine which one is better for you.

You have those backwards. V1 launches lower than V1x. The softer ball of the two almost always does. That's why range rocks go so high.

**Clubswinger21** · May 20, 2007

You see alot of people playing balls that arent designed for them. In my oppinion higher handicaps and slow swing speeds shouldnt be using any tour caliber balls. Partly because they will lose distance, and partly because the softer balls that spin more wont benfit them with wedge's and short game, because they dont posess enough talent and or clubhead speed to produce the spin those balls are capable of. Use an HX hot, or Pinnacle exception, or Bridgestone e5.. something you'll get something out of. I always laugh when I see a 56 yearold woman using a proV1x.

I've used both V1 and V1x, I found I get more check around the greens with my sandwedge with V1, and I got a good deal on 2 dozen on ebay. There are lots of brands I play and found play similar to prov series, obviously Im not good enough to notice the very subtle difference pros can.. the b330 longer in my experience, e6, HX tour, srixon, Hogan.

**niblick** · May 21, 2007

FWIW, I read an article recently where several different balls were struck by a robot and the RPMs recorded. It was a 75 yard shot with a sand wedge. The difference in spin between the Titleist ProV1 and the NXT Tour was negligible, like 8310 and 8200. The NXT Tours are half the price, so that's what I play, and I've always been happy with their performance overall.

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