Just tried a Nike Sumo2

All I can say is WOW!!! This thing is amazing. This is the new conforming model. I hit the 10.5* regular flex model. It is still possible to slice the crap out of the ball but for the most part, even with my lousy swing, everything would have been in play. I hit about 120 range balls and probably 40 or more were with the SUMO2. By the end of the bucket I had enough confidence to really swing this thing. I usually stop at somewhere around 3/4 swing, even with my driver, to try to get some consistency. However, the last 10 balls or so I really reached in my back swing and could see the club head out of my peripheral vision on my left eye. The ball went straight of had a little draw and sailed much farther than I've been able to hit drives all year long. I am going to try to get out for 9 this afternoon, if the rain gives me a chance, to see how it plays on the course. I may get myself in a little trouble as it seems to have added 30+ yards to my drives.

On a side note, this thing is every bit as loud as I'd heard. There were several glances in my direction. I also had 2 people stop by where I was hitting from to ask what I was swinging. That alone was pretty strange as I am generally invisible on the range unless I hit a ball off the toe and across the line 15 feet in front of everyone on the line LOL.

Needless to say I bought this club. I got it for a very good price. I was looking for a deal on an FT-i but couldn't find anything close to what I paid for this one.

I have never met anyone that like the SUMO2, glad it worked out for you. I couldnt hit it worth a darn when I demo'd it, plus its so loud I could barely stand it.

I haven't decided to sell my Burner 10.5 just yet. I'll need to play a few rounds with it and see.

The asthetics of a square club are pretty atrocious but my only concern is hitting fairways and greens so I can get past the looks and the sound.

Hey there, I can relate to you as well. At first I was a little skeptical about even demoing the Sumo2, but in the end I'm glad I did. I ended up getting the Stiff Mitsubishi Rayon 9.5 Degree. I sold my r7 460 in a matter of days, and being around a 16-17 handicap, all I really care about now is hitting straight and hitting fairways without shaping my drives. Hope you enjoy the new driver, I sure have been! Good luck!

The burner has a better MOI rating than the SQ and is longer.

Have a Sumo2 too - really every time i hit that thing somewhere near other people, people start commenting on the sound or asking about the club. Actually i´m not a big fan of that, actually it annoyed me a bit - so i thought about buying a new driver - well, i switched back after the very first day after i sliced and hooked the range right and left with that thing.

Now if people start talking about the sound - i just dont care any more and fire one at the end of the range

I guess it could be worse... you could have bought the "Hammer" driver from the infomercials. POWWWWW!

If you really wanna tell me that the burner with it´s higher MOI rating has better forgivness than the Sumo2 - NO WAY. The burner is indeed a little bit longer when i both compared them (even you really cant take it for granted since you might change some setup details and it can change distance very quickly and also is dependent of your swing), but the Sumo2 has an exceptionell forgivness compared to the burner.

I know. But I'm not hitting it straight so that really doesn't matter now does it. From what I saw last night I can hit the ball straighter and longer with the SUMO2 than my Burner. That is a fact, for me and my swing, plain and simple. The only thing I am interested in is lowering my scores. If that means I use an ugly loud driver to do so I'm fine with it. Obviously, you did not like the SUMO2. That's cool. I can appreciate that. However, I don't understand why you are trying to convince me that I shouldn't like it either? Cheers!

Well, congrats that the SUMO2 worked for you, you're one of the lucky few, I suppose.

When I demo'd it, it sounded like a really bad tin can, and the ball barely went 200 yards. (To compare...I bump it out there about 250 with my driver and wave as guys with slower swings blow the ball by me).

I didn't mean to sound offensive. Please excuse me

Have you tried different clubs out on the launch monitor? I had a local pro-shop fit me for my driver, the different shafts made a huge difference for me. Both clubs are monsters and shouldm have you outdriving your buddies in no time.

It takes a lot more than an internet conversation to offend me.

However, I didn't feel like getting into a pissing match over a driver.

Yes, I was fit to the Burner. I'm not saying anything bad about it. I just can't hit it well in real life. I wanted to give one of the square drivers a try. The FT-i was my first choice and I hit them very well. $500 is just more than I'm willing to pay for a driver though. I found the SUMO2 for a deal and I hit it well. That is more important than a launch monitor telling me I'm supposed to hit something well. I used the flex and loft from my session with a pro at Golf Galaxy and think I may have gotten lucky.

I've also considered having the Burner shaft changed but that will require another session with a pro and launch monitor I'm sure. Plus it will probably cost nearly as much as I got this SUMO2 for.

It's all good...Cheers!

First positive ever I heard about this thing. All I've heard was that it was a piece of shit. Glad you liked it though.

it sounds like a softball bat and swings like a Cadillac

**** if you say this thing can straighten out drives then i need to try this, cause my ball flight ranges from straight to a mild slice, and its hard to compensate cause everytime i aim left it goes straight and into the trees.

Just to be fair, I have hit the FT-i several times and I have yet to hit anything but straight with it. My distance was significantly less than with the Burner or the SUMO2 but every drive I've hit with the FT-i has been right down the pipe. I just can't spend $500 on a driver right now.

seriously thats crazy...whats your handicap

I'm not really sure that you can say this. The MOI rating that TM gives out is essentially a made up number (read the fine print in the advertising which talks about eMOI).

See below for more details, http://www.golfdiscussions.com/yabbs...1042.msg105034 This is a reprint from Tom Wishon's forum: CLUBMAKERS Over the past 2 weeks I received the same question from two of the industry's golf equipment writers. This came up when both of them had separate meetings with TM's technical people and the conversation went to high MOI drivers as a trend for 2007 and beyond. . . . “Effective MOI.” TaylorMade’s pumping this idea, claiming their new drivers have effective MOIs of 5900*, the asterisk meaning that the eMOIs are well above the USGA limit, but they can’t say how much. Then, privately they show us how the effective MOI is well above 8,000 on their “scale.” (“Effective MOI” is said by TM to combine face technology, like stretching the “COR zone,” with real heel-toe MOI to produce a “number” that is some sort of equivalent to legitimate MOI.) Like you, I know MOI is somewhat overblown, but at least it’s a real, measureable, scientific attribute of a clubhead. Effective MOI is a contrived concept at best, an obfuscation at the worst. They make fine drivers, why junk it up with techno-jive?" Clubmakers, there is no question that when you want to evaluate the off center hit capability of a driver, you must include the face design and how well it can maintain a decent flexing when you hit the ball off center. As I have written about this, it is definitely possible to find drivers with a superb face and a lower MOI that lose less distance from an off center hit than a driver with a high MOI and a so so face design. But to contrive this into an "MOI number" that is made up from thin air, and talk about the "number" is a perfect example of what this industry at the OEM level has become. TOM One more comment by Tom. As you can tell this chaps my behind when someone starts using unsubstanitated hype to push products: OEM Hype in terms of making up a new number format, because the OEM that wrote this knows that, 1) the industry is about to embark on a "number race" for MOI as defined by the USGA's new rule which limits it to a specific number of 5900g-cm2 plus a 100g-cm2 tolerance. So they feel they have to have a "number" that will play well in golfer's brains, and 2) they do not have a high MOI Izz driver in the works to compete with the OEMs that do have such a driver in the works for 2007. Because of this, this OEM knows their dominance of driver sales over the past few yrs is now in jeopardy so they have to make something up that will head off the competition at the pass. The part that this talks about which IS NOT HYPE is the contribution of the face design to off center hit performance. A very well designed face that will allow the face to flex a little more from an off center hit than some other face design will definitely act to improve the distance and feel of the off center hit - and this is an off center hit forgiveness that has nothing to do with the MOI Izz of the head, aka "the number". So yes, it would be nice to be able to get all golfers to listen to such a fact in the face of a growing "numbers game" in driver sales. But to contrive something that uses a made up and "different" MOI in its explanation, that's marketing hype. TOM