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Week 1: I am weak baby man


Yeesh. I just finished Week 1 of my gym adventures.

I haven't been to the gym consistently in a long time, and naturally, all the gains I made from then have mostly dissipated. Not really a big deal; I understand that, especially early on, the weight I'm lifting is going to be much, much less.

But damn, son; when I stopped going, I could dumbbell bench press 70 lbs per hand. I could regular bench 235. And now?

I struggled to get 200 lbs on my one rep match. I couldn't do more than 40 lbs per hand when I tested that. My legs are struggling with 185 lb squats!

I know within a few weeks my muscles'll have adjusted and I'll be seeing big gains. But it still sucks. It really sucks.

On a positive note: I got to eat breakfast this morning! Hooray for not being lazy! Hooray!

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Mike Boatright

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I can bench press 160 that's it I quit benching because it's the worst exercise for golf.

jbishop15

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  On 10/12/2015 at 3:13 AM, Mike Boatright said:

I can bench press 160 that's it I quit benching because it's the worst exercise for golf.

Eh. I don't really see it that way. Plus, I want to be stronger in that area, so even if it bad, I'm still going to do it. 

Edited by jbishop15
Mike Boatright

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I used to be the same way hey if you wanna look great by all means.but it's terrible for the golf swing.

newtogolf

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  On 10/13/2015 at 6:41 PM, Mike Boatright said:

I used to be the same way hey if you wanna look great by all means.but it's terrible for the golf swing.

Ok I'll bite, tell us why it is the worst exercise for golf? 

Keep in mind that Rory lists it as one of his top 5 exercises

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Here are 5 exercises that help my golf - hopefully they can help you too: Bench press, Inside Grip Pull-Ups, Wide Grip Pull-Ups, Hanging Leg Raises, Swiss Ball Pikes. Done correctly they are great for strength and stability.

Edited by newtogolf
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iacas

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  On 10/13/2015 at 7:36 PM, newtogolf said:
Keep in mind that Rory lists it as one of his top 5 exercises

What's he know? @Mike Boatright boasts a 4 (sometimes a 6) handicap and has read over 500 Golf Digests!

newtogolf

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  On 10/13/2015 at 7:52 PM, iacas said:

What's he know? @Mike Boatright boasts a 4 (sometimes a 6) handicap and has read over 500 Golf Digests!

I was going to wait for him to respond before I hit him with the Rory quote (reason for edit) but I figured I'd be a good forum member and let him back away from the comment without too much egg on his face.

Mike Boatright

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Rory is 24 years old he can do whatever he want's to get stronger until he realizes the truth.

 

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  On 10/13/2015 at 7:52 PM, iacas said:

What's he know? @Mike Boatright boasts a 4 (sometimes a 6) handicap and has read over 500 Golf Digests!

What's he know yada yada... All you do is quote what do you know?

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iacas

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  On 10/13/2015 at 10:51 PM, Mike Boatright said:

Rory is 24 years old he can do whatever he want's to get stronger until he realizes the truth.

 

THAT is your retort? A SOMAX video?

You do know that their videos and promotional materials and claims are mocked far and wide, right?

  On 10/13/2015 at 10:51 PM, Mike Boatright said:

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What's he know yada yada... All you do is quote what do you know?

Huh?

What does Tom Watson have to do with anything? And how do you figure that "all I do" is "quote what do you know?" That doesn't even make any sense. I do a HELL of a lot more - for golf, for golfers, and for golf instruction.

You? I have no idea at this point what you have to offer aside from troll-like posts.

And to be clear, what I mean by "troll-like":

  • Your posts are provocative and argumentative.
  • Your posts offer little in the way of quality information. Quite often they're actually wrong.
  • You ignore the efforts and posts and knowledge of others.
Mike Boatright

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Tom Watson was never a weight lifter and nearly won the British open at age 60! Just look at tiger woods it may have ruined his career. Mocked far and wide maybe I think his swing and the whole somax approach is spot on unless you wan't to be a football player go ahead and lift heavy weights.

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iacas

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  On 10/14/2015 at 1:25 AM, Mike Boatright said:

Tom Watson was never a weight lifter and nearly won the British open at age 60! Just look at tiger woods it may have ruined his career. Mocked far and wide maybe I think his swing and the whole somax approach is spot on unless you wan't to be a football player go ahead and lift heavy weights.

:doh: I'm taking a break from you @Mike Boatright.

Seriously, you're either doing this on purpose or you're not, but in either case, it's not good.

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mvmac

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SOMAX is a damn joke, that should be painfully obvious.

  On 10/14/2015 at 1:25 AM, Mike Boatright said:

Tom Watson was never a weight lifter and nearly won the British open at age 60! Just look at tiger woods it may have ruined his career. 

Yeah and there are a ton of bogey golfers that have never lifted weights. Tiger won 14 majors lifting weights and being active in the gym. 

Lifting doesn't hurt your ability to play good golf.

http://www.golfwrx.com/190917/the-six-biggest-myths-in-golf-fitness/

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The bottom line is that the bench press is a great, multi joint, free-weight exercise for developing strength in the chest, triceps and shoulders. And there’s nothing wrong with that! The chest, back and triceps musculature have been shown by Dr. Sergio Marta in multiple studies to be the most important muscles in the upper body for the golf swing.

I’m not saying that the bench press is the most important exercise for golfers, but it can and should be incorporated into the training programs of most golfers.

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newtogolf

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  On 10/14/2015 at 1:25 AM, Mike Boatright said:

Tom Watson was never a weight lifter and nearly won the British open at age 60! Just look at tiger woods it may have ruined his career. Mocked far and wide maybe I think his swing and the whole somax approach is spot on unless you wan't to be a football player go ahead and lift heavy weights.

So you're defending your position by citing one guy who didn't lift weights and almost won the British Open.  You must be a troll because there's no way someone who's achieved your handicap can be so ignorant about the golf swing and basic physiology. 

Let's go back to what you wrote. 

  On 10/12/2015 at 3:13 AM, Mike Boatright said:

I can bench press 160 that's it I quit benching because it's the worst exercise for golf.

You don't get to make statements like this without defending it.  You didn't say it's not a good exercise, you said it's the worst.  The bench press strengthens the chest, shoulders and triceps, now explain to me how an exercise that works those muscles is the "worst exercise for golf". 

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iacas

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  On 10/14/2015 at 2:08 PM, newtogolf said:

now explain to me how an exercise that works those muscles is the "worst exercise for golf". 

He can do this when he's out of the penalty box. Until then… the forum is a more knowledgeable place. :-D

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Mike Boatright

Posted (edited)

I don't mean to state things in such absolutes so I shall rephrase. Bench press is a terrible exercise for your golf game. Iv'e seen guys like this at my gym no joke they are big and unflexible and would make great linebackers. To get strong arms curl 15-30 pounds do triceps exercises or machine pully rows not bench press. Rory,Jordan are 20 and hyper flexible as they get older lifting will not help them. Golf exercise is about balance training and high reps low weight plyo metrics stuff.  If you wanna go ahead and bench say 80 pounds that's ok itt'l even out your body and create more upper body stability without tearing muscle tissue and getting big.

Sources my trainer at my local gym.

Edited by Mike Boatright
isukgolf

Posted

Sad to say, but appears Mr @Mike Boatright has successfully derailed another thread/blog ... so hopefully his work here is done.

@jbishop15 I feel your pain, and I took just a month off from going to the gym ... I attend a 1 hour fitness and had to stop a couple of times to recover, and a month ago I was plowing through the hour. 

 

 

newtogolf

Posted

  On 10/14/2015 at 9:14 PM, Mike Boatright said:

I don't mean to state things in such absolutes so I shall rephrase. Bench press is a terrible exercise for your golf game. Iv'e seen guys like this at my gym no joke they are big and unflexible and would make great linebackers. To get strong arms curl 15-30 pounds do triceps exercises or machine pully rows not bench press. Rory,Jordan are 20 and hyper flexible as they get older lifting will not help them. Golf exercise is about balance training and high reps low weight plyo metrics stuff.  If you wanna go ahead and bench say 80 pounds that's ok itt'l even out your body and create more upper body stability without tearing muscle tissue and getting big.

Sources my trainer at my local gym.

I'd suggest you find a new trainer. 

You can lift heavy weights and still maintain flexibility.  Look at how muscular and flexible gymnasts and wide receivers are.   

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mvmac

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  On 10/14/2015 at 11:03 PM, newtogolf said:

I'd suggest you find a new trainer. 

You can lift heavy weights and still maintain flexibility.  Look at how muscular and flexible gymnasts and wide receivers are.   

Exactly. Lifting properly improves mobility.

jbishop15

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  On 10/14/2015 at 10:55 PM, isukgolf said:

@jbishop15 I feel your pain, and I took just a month off from going to the gym ... I attend a 1 hour fitness and had to stop a couple of times to recover, and a month ago I was plowing through the hour. 

 

 

It was hard not to overdo myself that first week. I wanted to push so much harder, but I made the right choice by not doing so; I was super sore after all the workouts, and may have really hurt myself if I had pushed too hard. 

I'm already much stronger this week than last, and I still want to push too hard, lol. 

newtogolf

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  On 10/15/2015 at 2:30 AM, jbishop15 said:

It was hard not to overdo myself that first week. I wanted to push so much harder, but I made the right choice by not doing so; I was super sore after all the workouts, and may have really hurt myself if I had pushed too hard. 

I'm already much stronger this week than last, and I still want to push too hard, lol. 

You did make the right choice, most people over work their muscles so hard they can't work out properly for over a week. 

Your muscles respond to work, when your work them past their capacity they micro tear and rebuild stronger.  People don't realize that the feeling they should strive for after a good workout is tightness not soreness, if you're sore you over worked. 

tnull

Posted

'if lift weights I will get big and muscle bound and will not be able to do sports that require flexibility and agility..."  Wow, is this from the 50's?  Ask Dustin if he lifts...you see Rory and Jordan.  How about Jason?  In order to get to be one of those muscle bound guys at the gym you need several things:

1)  Really good genes.  Getting really huge is a matter of genetics.  Most of us do not have the genes to get a physique like Mr. Olympia.

2)  Spend a lot of time lifting....like live at the gym...You need to lift really heavy weights and a lot of them.  Specific circuits, really break down the muscle in order to build it up.  Most of us will never commit to the hours it would take to get really big.

3)  Radically change your diet.  Lots of protein, some carbs and little fat.  Body builders have boring diets.  Boiled chicken, protein shakes, veggies.

4)  Supplements (both legal and illegal)

So if you or I simply lift as part of our fitness regimen, we will gain strength and likely distance.  30 years ago, what PGA golfer lifted weights?  Now what PGA golfer does not?  You can be strong and still retain flexibility. Just need to maintain a good stretching routine and also exercise full ROM.  Tiger did not lose his game by working out, he did that by changing his swing once too often...

Just my two cents...

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