I Thought I Have Shortened the Back Swing, but on Video It Looks Almost the Same

[khalespace]

I have early release problem. I thought I have shortened the back swing to only 2/3 to combat this but I was really surprised that on video it looks almost the same as the full swing. Is this usually what happens? I probably have to feel that I shorten the back swing even more. I have slowly learned that you have to really exaggerate any change significantly to have a little change.

Edited May 21, 2021 by khalespace

[TourSpoon]

Yes, this is what usually happens. Most people who are asked to take a shaft parallel to the ground (half swing) are around shoulder height or better. Feel ain't real and this is a perfect example. 

[Darkfrog]

Do you practice with any sort of video feedback? I used Mirror Vision app on iOS for awhile, and recently got a Live View Pro camera which is a more convenient for me, and having the instant video feedback is unbelievably helpful for things like you describe.

I enjoy the AMG youtube channel, in spite of some of the click-baity titles, and I have heard a few quotable quotes about practice that resonated with me.

• I think, when asked what the best way to practice a certain concept, their reply was: do it right
• Another time I heard one of the guys say something like: practicing without feedback is just exercise

[khalespace]

4 minutes ago, Darkfrog said:

Do you practice with any sort of video feedback? I used Mirror Vision app on iOS for awhile, and recently got a Live View Pro camera which is a more convenient for me, and having the instant video feedback is unbelievably helpful for things like you describe.

I enjoy the AMG youtube channel, in spite of some of the click-baity titles, and I have heard a few quotable quotes about practice that resonated with me.

• I think, when asked what the best way to practice a certain concept, their reply was: do it right
• Another time I heard one of the guys say something like: practicing without feedback is just exercise

I just use my phone but I am looking for a USB camera and plan to mount it permanently on the wall. I just checked out Live View Pro you have mentioned and it is a little more pricey than I had thought. I may buy one anyway to have instant feedback. I agree on practicing without feedback is just a waste.

[Darkfrog]

19 minutes ago, khalespace said:

I just use my phone but I am looking for a USB camera and plan to mount it permanently on the wall. I just checked out Live View Pro you have mentioned and it is a little more pricey than I had thought. I may buy one anyway to have instant feedback. I agree on practicing without feedback is just a waste.

If you have two iOS devices (two iphones, or an iphone/iPad), the Mirror Vision app is pretty good, but I think there is a yearly subscription fee after the free trial expires. I used the app for a bit, but I don't have an iPad, so viewing on my second iPhone was not ideal. I'm happy with the live view pro camera, but it was a bit of a commitment at $349. I had an Amazon Fire tablet that was compatible with the camera, so I have a nice big screen to view the video on.

[Vinsk]

3 hours ago, khalespace said:

I have early release problem. I thought I have shortened the back swing to only 2/3 to combat this but I was really surprised that on video it looks almost the same as the full swing. Is this usually what happens? I probably have to feel that I shorten the back swing even more. I have slowly learned that you have to really exaggerate any change significantly to have a little change.

Feel ain’t real. And you’ve realized that. So before you dive into this …are you sure ‘early release’ is your priority problem if at all?

[nevets88]

I would recommend posting your swings in the Member Swings thread, it could be your backswing length is functional. This way we can see exactly what's going on.

Maybe consider getting a used iPhone 6 - it's way cheaper than a Live View and probably similar in cost to a USB camera, even though it's an old phone, the video capabilities are still very good. I'm still using mine and I have a current-ish model iPhone as my primary phone.

3 hours ago, khalespace said:

Another time I heard one of the guys say something like: practicing without feedback is just exercise

I recently ran across this on Instagram:

[iacas]

The one quote is "The best drill is doing it 'right.'"

Also, you need to figure out WHY your swing is so long, not just think "swing shorter."