Hitting Heel

[bonsaiguy32]

Hi All,

Ive been working with planemate over the last week or so.  I’m using it on my 60 degree wedge.  I’ve progressed to the one handed shots.  I’ve placed impact tape on the wedge and have noticed the following:  a)two handed shots I hit it pretty flush but mark is always towards the heel and sometimes I hit a hosel city shot, right handed shots I can hit flush more often than not and mark is towards the heel, left handed shots are really difficult but if I manage to hit one well impact is towards the heel.  I’ve struggled with an inside takeaway for several years now that isn’t issue with half shots and driver but makes hitting irons impossible.  Does the above isolate the issue to my left arm movement(perhaps excessive early forearm rotation)?  I’ve taken lessons and the instructor placed a piece of cardboard just outside line and made sure I didn’t hit it.  He also told me to try to make toe contact on the impact tape.  These were bandaids but I just don’t know what else to do.  Can’t play golf if u can hit irons.  Any feedback would be appreciated.

[Vinsk]

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• I’m the resident king of hosel endeavors around here. Gotta find the source of your heel impact. Hopefully you don’t have multiple as I do.🙂

[bonsaiguy32]

I tried to upload but it said the videos were too large from my iPhone.  I haven’t been fitted.  I’d love to blame the lie angle.  I’m 6’1” but arms are longer than average. I’m putting fitting off because I feel my iron swing is so bad at this point.

[iacas]

They’re not too large if you upload them to YouTube. We don’t host videos here.

You may be swinging “out” a bit more now, which can push the heel toward the ball more so.

You may also have your weight in your heels at setup, or a bunch of other different things.

[ColonelCamp]

I recently read that heel or toe shots can happen because we're either to close to the ball or too far away from it.  If you're too close, the tendency might be to bring your hands, even if just a little, causing you to make contact more off the toe.  Vice versa if you're too far away.  You might want to lunge at it to reach it, even if just a little, and end up hitting it off the heel.  What do you guys think about that?

[Vinsk]

  On 12/9/2021 at 6:58 PM, ColonelCamp said:

I recently read that heel or toe shots can happen because we're either to close to the ball or too far away from it.  If you're too close, the tendency might be to bring your hands, even if just a little, causing you to make contact more off the toe.  Vice versa if you're too far away.  You might want to lunge at it to reach it, even if just a little, and end up hitting it off the heel.  What do you guys think about that?

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I don’t know what a toe shot is. It’s an area of the club face for which I’m totally unfamiliar. Now the heel, heel my friend, we can talk. Anything can cause a shank. Anything. It’s a Pandora’s box that can present itself at any time and needs no reason whatsoever. On your toes, heels, swing in to out, out to in or glide that club through the slot of utopia and finish with the thunder clap of a pure hosel rocket. 
"The heel! The hosel! Hasenpfeffer Incorporated!"

@boogielicious will get this….😁

Edited December 9, 2021 by Vinsk

[boogielicious]

  On 12/9/2021 at 7:17 PM, Vinsk said:

I don’t know what a toe shot is. It’s an area of the club face for which I’m totally unfamiliar. Now the heel, heel my friend, we can talk. Anything can cause a shank. Anything. It’s a Pandora’s box that can present itself at any time and needs no reason whatsoever. On your toes, heels, swing in to out, out to in or glide that club through the slot of utopia and finish with the thunder clap of a pure hosel rocket. 
"The heel! The hosel! Hasenpfeffer Incorporated!"

@boogielicious will get this….😁

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Hell of a golfer that Carmine Ragusa!

[Vinsk]

  On 12/9/2021 at 7:30 PM, boogielicious said:

Hell of a golfer that Carmine Ragusa!

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Lol! Beautiful….I knew you’d get it.

[Double Mocha Man]

@vinsk, what if you had a clubmaker craft you a 12" long clubface, and you tried to hit it on the toe? 

You know, up here in the Pacific Northwest we use the word "Vinsk" as a verb for a hosel rocket... as in, "You vinsked it!"

[iacas]

  On 12/9/2021 at 6:58 PM, ColonelCamp said:

If you're too close, the tendency might be to bring your hands, even if just a little, causing you to make contact more off the toe.  Vice versa if you're too far away.

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Or vice versa if you're too close - you could hit it off the heel because you don't have the room to get your hands farther in, so you hit it off the heel.

IMO what mostly causes contact point issues is often best blamed on plane or path.

[ChetlovesMer]

  On 12/10/2021 at 12:43 AM, Double Mocha Man said:

You know, up here in the Pacific Northwest we use the word "Vinsk" as a verb for a hosel rocket... as in, "You vinsked it!"

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I'm going to start saying that around here. 
Then I'm going to just play it off as its a phrase that's commonly used in golf. If anyone questions it, I'm just going to look at them like they are an idiot for not knowing the phrase. Sort of like how George Castanza did when eating a candy bar with a knife and fork. "What do you call it, a shank? pwfff..."

[Double Mocha Man]

@ChetlovesMeryou are in on the ground floor of the genesis of a new worldwide phrase.  They all start somewhere.

Problem is, Vinsk will probably step in here and demand royalties.

Edited December 10, 2021 by Double Mocha Man