Z Factor - Best Training Aid Ever

[skierbri10]

I think I am more impressed that George Lopez has a 11 handicap.......saw it on the testimonial page....lol

[tmoult]

I think I am more impressed that George Lopez has a 11 handicap.......saw it on the testimonial page....lol

haha where was this?

[LastPrankster]

That's one of the dumbest things I've heard today. Admittedly, it's only 8:30am, but I think it'll hold up...

I figured you would attack me on this, without thinking about it throughly. A good putting stroke, is a repeatable one. You do not need to spend $300 dollars to create a repeatable putting stroke.

Also, distance control or lag is far more vital in golf, then line. It really hard to miss a flat putt 2 or more feet wide, but it is not hard to hit it two or more feet short, or long. Even if you can hit it straight every time, you still have to read the green.

[AmenCorner]

iacus,

I am new here so forgive me. But your review seems more like an infomercial then a journalistic piece. Do you have a stake in this aid?

[atltony]

...just wouldn't feel right paying 300 for something that is actually so simple. Two bendable rails with magnets, and some numbers, I feel like I could rig something up like this with two metal clothes hangers and somehow attach a magnet to each...total cost being like $20 at best. I mean, to each his own...but $300 is definitely the wrong price range for this product.

[AmenCorner]

...just wouldn't feel right paying 300 for something that is actually so simple. Two bendable rails with magnets, and some numbers, I feel like I could rig something up like this with two metal clothes hangers and somehow attach a magnet to each...total cost being like $20 at best. I mean, to each his own...but $300 is definitely the wrong price range for this product.

With all due respect, I'm not so sure it's that easy. Plus, I'll give credit to the designers of the product as it does look very professional. I would love to try one before I considered it.

[iacas]

24 putts today . Yeah, the thing works.

[Cizzle]

24 putts today

On 16, you hit your GIR, putted only once, yet shot a bogey?

[iacas]

Sorry, did not mean to upset you, but when you compare £50 to £150 ish (assumed cost at current exchange rates) then the £50 model that 'only' encourages a straight back and straight through putting stroke looks more inviting.

Okay, how about I sell you a hamburger for $5. It'll help your putting as much as that £50 device. Again, there's a reason almost nobody putts square-to-square.

I'm not upset. It costs less... and does a whole lot less, too.

Think of it this way, if Cameron or somebody came out with a $299 putter that gave you a perfectly repeatable putting stroke and shaved 2 strokes off every round instantly, they would fly off shelves. Why not something that does it with your current putter?

That's a good way to put it.

I figured you would attack me on this, without thinking about it throughly. A good putting stroke, is a repeatable one. You do not need to spend $300 dollars to create a repeatable putting stroke.

You weren't "attacked." This device will help you build a repeatable putting stroke. That's pretty much the stated purpose - to build a perfect putting stroke. A perfect one, I agree, is one that repeats.

Also, distance control or lag is far more vital in golf, then line.

I've yet to see a training aid that can help you get distance control. This doesn't do it, and nothing else does either. That's up to the golfer. Experience, practice, and a little bit of an innate sense of touch play a role there.

But I don't think it's "far more vital." If you mess up either, you're going to miss the putt. The margin of error on line, however, is incredibly small. My speed's always been pretty good. And again, you can't build a training aid for speed. But you can for line, and line is important just as speed is, and this training aid does the best possible.

It really hard to miss a flat putt 2 or more feet wide, but it is not hard to hit it two or more feet short, or long. Even if you can hit it straight every time, you still have to read the green.

Missing by two inches is the same as missing by two feet. It's still a miss. On a ten foot putt, if you miss your line by > 1°, you have

no chance of making the putt at all. Who cares how close your miss is - it's still a miss. Speed will keep your second putt closer, but the Z Factor is about making more of your first putts (and, heck, more of your second putts too).

I am new here so forgive me. But your review seems more like an infomercial then a journalistic piece. Do you have a stake in this aid?

Here's our

review policy . Should we ever review anything we have a part in (say, my Scorecard software) we'll come out and say so. I'm simply tired of seeing people spend $400 on a driver they're not going to hit any better than their previous one when there are better products - like the Z Factor - out there. I'm not a big fan of training aids, but this one has excited me. I'm just sharing that excitement here.

On 16, you hit your GIR, putted only once, yet shot a bogey?

I keep stats for the second ball, except the score. Note the two penalty strokes (lost ball - pull-hooked it basically OB). Except the score, of course - that's kept "normally."

So yeah, par four, GIR, one putt, +2 penalty strokes = 5.

[AmenCorner]

have a part in (say, my Scorecard software) we'll come out and say so.

Fair enough, I was just curious.

[Lemay427]

Someone mentioned earlier about being able to read the greens and this product not really helping that aspect. I encounter more 3-7 foot, straight, flat, par putts than I do "makeable" 25-35 footers that break. If I could sink 90% of those 3-7 footers I would be a scratch golfer. Having a consistent stroke will help your putting game, whether its a 50 foot double breaker, or a simple 2 foot straight putt.

I am going to wait a little until I can try one or hear more about this, but it def. deserves a shot.

[AmenCorner]

Someone mentioned earlier about being able to read the greens and this product not really helping that aspect. I encounter more 3-7 foot, straight, flat, par putts than I do "makeable" 25-35 footers that break. If I could sink 90% of those 3-7 footers I would be a scratch golfer. Having a consistent stroke will help your putting game, whether its a 50 foot double breaker, or a simple 2 foot straight putt.

I absolutely agree with your statement and would like to elaborate.

Getting a putt start out true, and roll true is paramount to becoming a good putter. Just because you get farther away doesn't make it any less important. There will always be an element of luck in golf, but if this guy is trying to say that having a solid putting stroke is not important outside a certain range, I say that is an absurd argument.

[skierbri10]

haha where was this?

Here ya go, he is at the very bottom......

http://perfectputtingmachine.com/testimonials.html

[Guardian5]

Greetings,

After reading the reviews here I've ordered the Z Factor. Being brand new to golf I thought this might help learn the proper way of putting. My first lesson with the PGA pro is going to focus on hitting the ball with irons and woods, but my second will be on short game and putting.

I'll let you know what this true beginner thinks of the perfect putting machine after it arrives and I practice with it.

[JaY_B]

Iacas are you still using this or has it become another training aid that you forget about after a couple of weeks? I am a fan of the theory of training aids but nothing beats practise, how do you guys think Nicklaus learned to hole clutch putts? no such thing as a Z Factor in his day.

[iacas]

Iacas are you still using this or has it become another training aid that you forget about after a couple of weeks? I am a fan of the theory of training aids but nothing beats practise, how do you guys think Nicklaus learned to hole clutch putts? no such thing as a Z Factor in his day.

Yes, I'm still using it. I'm using it almost every day. One of my putters has the little metal squares stuck to them and has for several weeks now. My putting has remained very good - I'm starting the ball online almost every time now. My misses are simply a matter of speed or the read now, never about mis-hitting the putt off-line.

Not sure what the heck Nicklaus has to do with anything.

[JaY_B]

Yes, I'm still using it. I'm using it almost every day. One of my putters has the little metal squares stuck to them and has for several weeks now. My putting has remained very good - I'm starting the ball online almost every time now. My misses are simply a matter of speed or the read now, never about mis-hitting the putt off-line.

My point about Nicklaus was that he had no access to training aids like this, and still putted well and that practise was key. I might get one of these when I go to college next year.

[iacas]

My point about Nicklaus was that he had no access to training aids like this, and still putted well and that practise was key.

Nicklaus had training aids. They may not have been as sophisticated as some that we have today, but he had training aids.

And even if he didn't, that's got little to do with the fact that we DO have them now and not taking advantage of the good ones would be stupid.