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As an outsider, I see that American elections take often some Hollywood effect. I look at it, and frankly I find it a battle of slogans and branding, as opposed to a battle of platforms.

Are there any published platforms by the candidates? Something a bit more detailed than the mainstreams of pro-life vs. pro-choice, secular country vs. christian nation, pro-guns vs. gun control, pro-war vs. anti-war etc.?

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I don't think Obama should attack her experience at all. My point was that this selection makes it much harder for McCain to use the inexperience argument on the offensive against Obama.

Agreed. And McCain shouldn't. Smear campaigns are pointless (to me). I want to know the plan the candidates have....not what the other lacks (dependant on the situation). I think that was a bit of a hack arguement anyway.

If you don't think it is important for a candidate to be able to clearly express ideas, intelligently answer questions, and communicate with the American people, I'm not likely to change your mind.

I didn't say I didn't think it was important. I said that

I don't care (I guess I should have said "It's not what I'm taking away from them"). Is it important that he/she convey's there message in a clear in concise manner? Absolutely. However, I'm not going to choose one candidate because the other isn't a great speaker. I'm not going to choose a candidate based on the fact that he/she is a great speaker. I'm also not going to make a choice for President based on "The last president was a dolt...". The last 3 presidents were dolts.

Obama's speech tore apart McCain last night, it was great.

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Agreed. And McCain shouldn't.

Cool, agreement.

However, I'm not going to choose one candidate because the other isn't a great speaker. I'm not going to choose a candidate based on the fact that he/she is a great speaker. I'm also not going to make a choice for President based on "The last president was a dolt...". The last 3 presidents were dolts.

I agree that being a great speaker won't necessarily make you a good president. Basically, I'm voting for Obama because I think he's more intelligent than McCain who was almost last in his class at the Naval Academy and Obama disagrees with virutally everything this latest dolt of a president has done. McCain, on the other hand, has voted with Bush over 90% of the time. No brainer for me, but if you like Bush and the last 8 years, McCain is for you!

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I was there among the other 15,000 folk. It was actually a pretty good rally. A couple of hick-ups... mic volume was a problem, waited an extra hour for McCain to show up because of a interstate accident (see best comments below), and an idiot screaming behind the media bleacher had to be escorted from the building for yelling ... 9/11 conspiracy drival. I don't think anyone heard him except those that were in the immediate area.

I thought Sarah is the "clean and articulate" choice! She has a better resume than Barack if you compare apples to apples. McCain has shaken up the GOP and the Democrats are now scrambl'in to difuse the selection. The debates will be interesting.

Best joke... Auditor of Ohio Mary Taylor..."A taxpayer who votes for Obama is like a chicken who votes for Colonel Sanders."

Best comments from the audience...

A sign being waved said... Ready to Lead. The guy in front of me said, Yeah, when he gets here."

Another sign said... Talk is cheap. My son said, "Showing up late to your presidentail rally... priceless!"

All in all it was a winner! I was glad I went.

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So the Repulican ticket's VP (we'll call #2) has less experience than the Democratic ticket's Presidential nominee (#1). By how much? Is that really quantifiable? Obama has what....142 days in the Senate? And what has he accomplished?

Well if it means anything to you, he worked at, and accomplished one hell of a lot more that McCain did this year:

Obama's legislative record for 2007 McCain's legislative record for 2007

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Slam dunk for McCain!
I'll bet the mother of five knows more about the struggles of the middle class than any millionaire senator. I'll even bet she's not worth 5 mil either.
Alaska may be a small state, but they all (80% any how) love this woman.
Say what you will, McCain made a great choice.

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Remember most voters are stupid and only look at candidates for face value. People will look at this McCain ticket and see it more like passing of the torch to change.

In the 1952 election, the Democratic Party nominated Governor Adlai Stevenson II of Illinois to run against Eisenhower. Stevenson had gained a reputation in Illinois as an intellectual and eloquent orator (sound familiar???).

One voter came up to him and said something (I'm paraphrasing here)... "All the intellectuals are voting for you Governor." Adlai thanked the person and stated, "That nice; however, I need a majority to win." Of course, Ike won in a landslide with a VP crook named Nixon who begged to stay on the ticket with his famous "Checkers" speech. Ahhhhh, politics! We'd all like to vote for the best man, but he's never a candidate. ~Frank McKinney "Kin" Hubbard
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Wow so now BOTH parties have an old white male and a young woman on the ticket...this is going to be a tough decision....

Wow so now BOTH parties have an old white male and a young woman on the ticket...this is going to be a tough decision....

i'm fairly sure obama isn't a woman......

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Wow sarcasm is really wasted on this board lol

The problem is your attempt at humor was an epic fail.

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Well anyway, I think she is a great choice...plus she if frikin hot.
Does anyone else want to see her in a low cut top taking those glasses off and letting her hair down with a fan blowing behind her while "hot for teacher" is playing in the background?
Or is it just me


Or is it just me

it's just you

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OK fair enough, but now can we hear from a heterosexual male?

I already commented on her hotness!

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i'm fairly sure obama isn't a woman......

Do you shower with him, or do you have other first hand info ?

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