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The only good football broadcasters I know are Jeff Joniak and Tom Thayer. They do Bears radio.

I have yet to hear a national TV broadcaster who is worth listening to.

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The only good football broadcasters I know are Jeff Joniak and Tom Thayer. They do Bears radio.

John Madden?

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Why.

1st, H.L Mencken said, "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public."

2nd, at one time Kornheiser was actually a columnist at the Washington Post, with columns in the Style section as well as the Sports section. To his credit, he didn't try to analyze technical aspects of sports and generally his columns had a lot of humor and insight in them and they were readable and enjoyable. IMO, with his transition to radio & TV he has become the Village Fool. Of course, he's making money faster than the Bureau of Engraving & Printing can print it.

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I don't mind him that much. He has some funny lines here and there...what irks you about him most?

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I don't mind him that much. He has some funny lines here and there...what irks you about him most?

Everything in between the occasional "here and there".

I've just never heard him say anything worthwhile and I think he interferes with the flow of the action. Even if I didn't mind his shtick, he doesn't know when to shut up. That's why I like Troy Aikman as an analyst. Aside from his dead-on analysis, he knows that the audience is there to watch the game, not listen to him. He knows how to say his blurb and then be quiet.

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Everything in between the occasional "here and there".

I see - I guess I was thinking more along the lines of you preferring Madden as the MNF commentator over Kornheiser...but as a commentator in general - I agree with you.

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Kornheiser fan here.... Wilbon also.... I think he's the "color" guy. I like him better than Dennis Miller, eventhough I like Millers comedy and political humor.
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Kornheiser fan here.... Wilbon also.... I think he's the "color" guy. I like him better than Dennis Miller, eventhough I like Millers comedy and political humor.

Kornheiser = unwatchable

Miller = unwatchable When did (attempted) humor become critical to watching a football game?

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Kornheiser = unwatchable

Remember when Lethal Weapon came out? At that time, there were only 2 movie franchises (Lethal Weapon and 007) that used occasional humor to temper the violence. Soon after, and for the next 20 years, action movies progressively inserted more and more "humor" until it overwhelmed the movie and basically ruined it. All the little "funny" comments that no one would ever say, etc.

Same thing with major sports broadcasts. The sports have been overwhelmed by the broadcaster sideshow. MNF (and SNF) are the most prominent examples. The latest Bond movie, Casino Royale, dispensed with all the idiotic humor. Best bond movie in . . . well, maybe ever. Saved the franchise. I hope they do the same with major sports broadcasts.

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bring back Pat S. and Dandee Don and Howard C

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bring back Pat S. and Dandee Don and Howard C

Sadly, in his last several years of broadcasting, Pat Summerall sounded like he was perpetually drunk on the air. Not just slurring, but also what he was saying.

Al Michaels is okay, and Madden seems to have toned it down a lot this year. They are tolerable I suppose. Buck and Aikman are the best right now. (Although, since his father passed, Buck tends to get a little arrogant every now and then.)

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Al Michaels is okay, and Madden seems to have toned it down a

I can't stand Michaels, but I think that's more a personal thing. I like Aikman a lot. I also think Simms does a good job. After that, it's slim pickings.

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...Buck and Aikman are the best right now. (Although, since his father passed, Buck tends to get a little arrogant every now and then.)

Ugh, I can't stand Joe Buck honestly. Esp when he does baseball. He only has a few monotonous lines just said at a higher decibel level. "To the right siiiiide...THROUGH - BASEHIT!...Up the middlllle...THROUGH - BASEHIT!" I know this thread is about football, but I just can't stand Joe Buck.

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Kornheiser fan here.... Wilbon also.... I think he's the "color" guy. I like him better than Dennis Miller, eventhough I like Millers comedy and political humor.

You must like my second favorite sports talk show: PTI

(It's second only to Around the Horn) I like Kornheiser. He realizes that sports are what they are and laughs at them unashamedly. Kornheiser throws himself under the bus more often than he throws anyone else under it. I don't know of any grievous factual errors he's made. If you don't get his jokes, try getting off on Mike Tirico's raucous sense of humor. MNF is not what it once was - the best damn sports show period. I'm with the Gifford, Dandy Don and Howard fans on that one. MNF will never be what it once was because of cable TV. If that means you use Kornheiser to broaden the potential appeal, I'm OK with that.

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Kornheiser fan here.... Wilbon also.... I think he's the "color" guy. I like him better than Dennis Miller, eventhough I like Millers comedy and political humor.

Just re-read my post. I meant to say Kornheiser is the color guy.

I guess I am just a Tony fan. Must be all of the Uranus jokes .
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The only thing John Madden could acutely analyze is the most efficient method for dismantling and devouring a 23 lb turducken.

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