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Most people would assume no, but ball striking is the best part of my game and it keeps getting better. I dont shoot any worse with my blades then I did with game improvement irons, and I have consistently been getting better since the switch.

Now only if I had a short game...

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Driver: 10.5* G5 with UST V2
F.W. wood: 16* retro raylor with Aldila HM-40 Tour Gold
Irons: i5 3-pw. Stiff cs lite shafts
Wedges: 8620 51*, 56*, and 60* Putter: classics 1 34""Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

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Is there really such a thing anymore as a standard player's iron? Given the number of pros that hit cavity backs, or muscle backs, or a mixed set of cavities in the long irons and blades for short irons, how do you judge what is "too good" for you to play? I started playing Callaway Fusions, and then when they got stolen I started playing X-20s, which I hated, then moved to X-forged, which I like better, and then tried out some of my buddy's MP-57s, which I immediately fell in love with and are perfect for my game. I have played around with occasionally swapping in an 8, 9, PW from a set of MP-67s, and that works pretty well for me, but it changes my gaps a bit, so I've gone back to MP-57s. I'm a 12 now, and was a 24 when I started playing with my 57s, and frankly I think they made me a better player. I know they made me want to be a better player, so I ended up practicing more and going out every chance I could get, so perhaps there's a little of the chicken-or-the-egg syndrome going on, but I don't really think game improvement irons are that great. In the end, it seems to be either a personal preference, or lucking onto something that works for you.

In my C-130 Cart Bag:

Driver: Titleist D2 10.5° Aldila R.I.P. 60
Woods Exotics CB4 15° Aldila R.I.P. 70
Hybrids Exotics CB4 17°, 22° Aldila R.I.P. 80 

Irons 4-PW MP-57 Project X 6.0, MP-29 PW

Wedges  Eidolon 52°, 60° Rifle Spinner 6.5

Putter Bettinardi BB12

Ball One Black

Rangefinder Nikon Laser 500"Golf...

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It's tough to find us stragglers who still play the 975J. Are you still enjoying yours? I've been tempted to pick up something new. Buying into the technology hype a little, I guess.

I love it. If I hadn't paid all that money and had it fit on the Titleist Launch Monitor I might consider something else, but so far, I haven't come across anything I can hit better.

Cheers, Allan

In my Ping Hoofer II bag: Titleist 975J | Callaway Big Bertha 3 Wood S2H2 | Mizuno Fli-Hi 18˚ Hybrid | Mizuno MP-33 3-PW | Cleveland Tour Action 900 54/60 | Ping Anser II BeCu | Titleist ProV1

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Is there really such a thing anymore as a standard player's iron? Given the number of pros that hit cavity backs, or muscle backs, or a mixed set of cavities in the long irons and blades for short irons, how do you judge what is "too good" for you to play? I started playing Callaway Fusions, and then when they got stolen I started playing X-20s, which I hated, then moved to X-forged, which I like better, and then tried out some of my buddy's MP-57s, which I immediately fell in love with and are perfect for my game. I have played around with occasionally swapping in an 8, 9, PW from a set of MP-67s, and that works pretty well for me, but it changes my gaps a bit, so I've gone back to MP-57s. I'm a 12 now, and was a 24 when I started playing with my 57s, and frankly I think they made me a better player. I know they

DUDE, you have one of the best bags Ive ever seen. every club in your bag is freaking AWESOME and i would LOVE to have your set-up. nice going!
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DUDE, you have one of the best bags Ive ever seen. every club in your bag is freaking AWESOME and i would LOVE to have your set-up. nice going!

Dude, you kill me.

I've never even heard of Eidolon, expensive?

Driver: Nike Covert Driver

Irons: Mizuno JPX-825 Pro 5-GW 

Cleveland Mashie 1, 2, 3, & 4 hybrids

Wedges: Mizuno MP-T4 Black Nickel 54* & 58*

Putter: Wack-e with super stroke grip

Ball: Titleist Pro V1X

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Is there really such a thing anymore as a standard player's iron? Given the number of pros that hit cavity backs, or muscle backs, or a mixed set of cavities in the long irons and blades for short irons, how do you judge what is "too good" for you to play? I started playing Callaway Fusions, and then when they got stolen I started playing X-20s, which I hated, then moved to X-forged, which I like better, and then tried out some of my buddy's MP-57s, which I immediately fell in love with and are perfect for my game. I have played around with occasionally swapping in an 8, 9, PW from a set of MP-67s, and that works pretty well for me, but it changes my gaps a bit, so I've gone back to MP-57s. I'm a 12 now, and was a 24 when I started playing with my 57s, and frankly I think they made me a better player. I know they

Hey man, how do you like those Eidelon wedges? The shop that will be building my set of Mizuno's carries them but I had never heard of them before. They rave about them though.
Penta TP Ball || Nakashima Golf HTEC Tour Driver - w/ Mitsubishi Rayon Bassara 83g || Izett Golf 15* Deep Face 3-Wood - w/ Royal Precision Rifle Steel || MD 18* Hybrid - w/ Aerotech SteelFiber 110g || MP-58 3, 4 Irons... MP-60 5, 6 Irons... MP-32 7-PW - w/ Dynamic Gold || MP-T 53-08...
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I can't help but lust over much of the new equipment that comes out each year that is played by the tour players. I LOVE the way just about anything that Davis Love III or Tiger Woods plays, but I know I'm just not good enough to make it work in my game.

If you want "players" kit, buy it. It's not that hard to use and people make too much fuss about playing blades or whatever. I don't wish I had more forgiving kit; if I hit a bad shot, I know it's me and not the kit and I just need to work at it some more.

Home Course: Wollaton Park GC, Nottingham, U.K.

Ping G400, 9°, Alta CB 55S | Ping G400, 14°, Alta CB 65S | Adams Pro Dhy 18°, 21°, 24°, KBS Hybrid S | Ping S55 5-PW, TT DGS300 | Vokey 252-08, DGS200 | Vokey 256-10 (bent to 58°), DGS200 | Ping Sigma G Anser, 34" | Vice Pro Plus

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Not too bad. About 10 or 15 more than a vokey.

In my stand bag:
909D3 with 10.5 degrees of loft and a 45 inch Fujikura Rombax 6Z08, x-flex
909F3 15* with a stock Diamana Blue
FT 18* with an Aldila NV
X-forged ('07), 3-PW with Project X 6.0 CG12, 53/11, and 58* with DSG Red X2, 33"All with Lamkin Crossline Full Cord. (except the putter of...

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I actually joined the forum to ask the same question. I will be posting my own topic soon but I bought mp-60's last year and have had mixed results using them.

I was actually thinking of going backwards and getting GI irons. I was a 10 handicap a few years ago but am shooting in the upper 80's now. I think the mp-60s have made me realize im not as good as my equipment...
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This year it's the AP2s. I really, really, really, want to buy a set, but I have this thought in my head - you aren't a single digit HCP, so you can't play those irons.

dude GET THEM if you want them. if they instill confidence in you...if you can hit it pure...hit it well...etc then who cares what your HC is...at least that's my opinion.

I was roughly a 15 - 17 when I picked up my MP-60's at the end of '07..it was my 1st year.. but i didn't care..i hit them well. 1 year later i'm shooting in the 70's and low 80's on a consistent basis with them... if you get them... and you're using a CB, it takes some getting used to...but you'll be fine after a week or 2 on the range dialing the distances in.... i know i'm not awesome enough to use what I have in the bag...but i went with stuff that i could play with now that i won't have to replace the better i get. i'm not looking to replace my irons for a good 7 - 10 years. unless technology really really really really hugely makes that big of a difference. if you can hit it...hit it
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I went from game improvement Ping G5 irons to Ping S59 which are a players club. I hit these things much better then the G5's and not sure why. I don't think you should get caught up in the "type" but try what you want to play. If they work great, if not you can say you tried them. And maybe, as in my strange case, the players irons will work better for you (due to less offset, thinner top line and narrower sole)....

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Callaway FTiq Tour i-mix 9.5º with stiff Mitsubishi Rayon Javlnfx 6
Cobra F-Speed LD 3-wood 15.5º with 43" YS Tour AD regCobra Baffler DWS 20º & 23º with Aldila VS Proto HL regPing S59 3-PW with Nippon PRO 950GH stiffTitleist Vokey Spin Milled 56º wedgeInazone B...

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