the greens

[Bump-n-MI]

Think of how the pros feel. They have to deal with this everyday like it's their job...oh wait it is hahaha

True, they typically play on lightning fast greens….however, they are also typically receptive. I'll take fast / receptive greens any day.

[Rob]

Come`on,Weenies! You have to adjust to the conditions. Every course/greens are different,so size it up and play! I would agree that sometimes we don`t play as well, but if it`s that bad, just pack up and go after the 3rd hole. Otherwise, enjoy- it`s better than work,being in prison,fighting with the wife,being dead,ect.

[CarlSpackler]

The greens at my course were barely watered and often had the trampoline effect. You could hit a full PW and not leave a pitch mark. The new super is doing a wonderful job keeping them softer so they will hold. I love putting fast greens though.

[n8ron]

Near our family summer house, the is a golf course that I frequent during vacations. This thing is a cow pasture, but it's fun. What I don't get about the greens is that they WILL NOT hold a pitch. The ball bounces and often rolls off. However when it comes time to putt, they are sooooo sloooow. I can't get this straight in my head, it seems so contradictory. Others have made the same observation, so I know I'm not crazy...

[wedge player]

Near our family summer house, the is a golf course that I frequent during vacations. This thing is a cow pasture, but it's fun. What I don't get about the greens is that they WILL NOT hold a pitch. The ball bounces and often rolls off. However when it comes time to putt, they are sooooo sloooow. I can't get this straight in my head, it seems so contradictory. Others have made the same observation, so I know I'm not crazy...

i play a course pretty often the sam way its like hitting to concrete then puttin uphill for everything

[flopdarock]

i absolutely love fast greens... crappy concrete dead greens suck...
but the higher end courses around here have greens that're just lightening fast...
my home course has unbelievably slow greens and putting is just a chore... lines that should have generous break pretty much are straight shots due to the speed...
when i play a "better" course... reading the greens is so much easier and you dont have to hammer balls to get them close

[whip_it_out]

Think of how the pros feel. They have to deal with this everyday like it's their job...oh wait it is hahaha

Yeah but their greens are so soft and receptive.

I LOVE fast greens but only if they are meant to be fast, like you can't ahve massive amounts of undulation and be very fast, because it becomes unfair, and neither can the greens be hard.

[Marmitetoo]

I hate greens like this. They can really spoil your day, particularly if you are a mid to high handicapper. I don't think they encourage people to play the game, or at least enjoy playing the game. Who wants to get to a par 5 in the 3 regulation shots and then take 4 or 5 just to get it in the whole?
Save 'em for the US Open (Where even there, I don't think it's what most of the viewing public enjoy watching).

Steve

[RC]

The best test of good golf is fast and firm greens. Only well played shots will behave -- knuckle ball pitch shots, unless uphill, are going to roll off the green. But fast and concrete greens are over the top. If you drop a ball from waist high and it will not stay somewhere on the green, then that is getting pretty much unplayable. We get very fast greens and days when we simply cannot play because the wind blows every ball off the green -- that is truly unplayable conditions.

It is super hard to get above 13 on a stimp meter. Sure, downhill things can be insane, but a true 13 (a true flat 13) will test anyone. 10 to 12 is considered pretty darn fast. Used to be the tour would not want anything above 13, or the complaining got too great. Having said that, I have actually played on greens that stimped over 14 on a day when the wind came up and they got a little dry. It was like putting in a bath tub, nearly impossible. Imagine, turning your back to the hole and putting away from your target... and hoping you stayed on the green. Was it fun? You bet, it was a blast. But it was not golf as we know it. I prefer 11 to 12 and that is very fast. Some courses will not work at that speed simply because the contours limit pin placement to only a few locations. Anyway, I like greens fast enough to put a little fear in every putt. That is a test.

[iacas]

the one i was talkin about has green speeds posted outside the pro shop

In my experience, 90% of the courses that "post" the green speeds like that are lying.

[wedge player]

In my experience, 90% of the courses that "post" the green speeds like that are lying.

ive played many courses this course is exeptionally faster then the rest.

[flopdarock]

i think around 9 is a good stimp for me

[Nick88]

My home course being summer now there running around 13 right now but being a proper links course the greens are so hard its unreal! If you have 180 yds to go you hit a wedge and run it for 30yds to the green there that hard!

[tjy355]

It's not darts, you guys need to learn how to play golf.

[pjsnyc]

...Anyway, I like greens fast enough to put a little fear in every putt. That is a test.

BINGO!

Unfortunately for me, I live in NYC and play Bronx golf :P