Looking for a tip

[Duffy]

Hi all,

I'm a little confused about a particular problem I'm having. My 170 club is a 7 iron. That seems to be about a normal club to distance ratio but it pretty much seems to stop making sense there. My 185 club is my 4 iron. Seems like I'm wasting a couple of slots in my bag. Contact seems to be pure with both clubs and I cant figure it out. Any answers out there?????

[MX 876]

Seems odd to me. My 7 iron is my 175 yd club, but I hit my 4 about 215. Your swing speed must be ok based in 7 iron distance and I believe your capable of good contact based on your ability. Even a slight mis-hit should get you better distance with those irons. Whats the ball flight like with both clubs?

[wedge player]

hmm i had this problem about 7 months ago turned out i was swinging my long irons to hard.it felt pure just didnt go.so try to swing slower and see if that helps.

[WUTiger]

Wedge player has a good idea. Make sure you're not swinging too hard - or overswinging going back - on your 4 iron.

How do the 5i and the 3i (if you carry one) work on distance?

[Duffy]

Hi guys, well, i'll try slowing my swing on the longer clubs and see what gives. Don't carry a 3. Ball flight on 7 is very high, i'always had a high trajectory, 4 looks about normal so i'll report back after trying your tips. Thanks guys.b-)

[GamerJG]

Hi guys, well, i'll try slowing my swing on the longer clubs and see what gives. Don't carry a 3. Ball flight on 7 is very high, i'always had a high trajectory, 4 looks about normal so i'll report back after trying your tips. Thanks guys.b-)

your swing plane may be equally as steep with both clubs but should be a little flatter with the longer clubs. if you are taking big divots and maybe hitting some chunky shots with the 4i, this may be the case. you should be taking a small divot. also, you may be trying to pick the ball with the 4, which can cause some lower traj. and not so solid shots. i'm not suggesting you make different swings with the 2 clubs but naturally the 4 swing should be flatter because the club is longer. i would check my setup, ball position, and distance from the ball with the 4i. have you ever used a hybrid club? i have ditched the 3 and 4 irons alltogether. the hybrids are much easier to hit than long irons. they feel like a 6,7 iron when you swing them. you would probably get 200-215 yds. with a hybrid and they come in handy off the tee on shorter par 4's and long par 3's. maybe adding one or two to your bag would solve all your problems. hope it helps, good luck.

[shankapotamus]

You could also be swinging with your arms, and throwing away all lag.

[flatom]

Check that your shaft lean is not happening with the 4 but it with the 7. Can make a huge difference.

[Dub]

That is pretty wild.

Sounds like a huge 7 iron and normal 4 iron.

[Kingfisher]

Hi all,

How about your other irons? Do you have good yardage gaps from 8 to 7 and from 7 to 6? From what you're saying you have 3 clubs for a 15yd yardage gap - 170 to 185 = 6,5 and 4 irons? Something is wrong

Did you get your club set-up checked? Could it be some inconsistent lofts / lies / shafts?

[Duffy]

Well Guys, I think it's time for a short break followed by a visit or two to my pro. Working on my distance problem I've all of a sudden developed the shanks. I mean it's awful, like some kind of non contagious golf desease. Time after time, shank, shank shank. I think I'd rather go back to a short 4 iron than this.

[GamerJG]

Well Guys, I think it's time for a short break followed by a visit or two to my pro. Working on my distance problem I've all of a sudden developed the shanks. I mean it's awful, like some kind of non contagious golf desease. Time after time, shank, shank shank. I think I'd rather go back to a short 4 iron than this.

you can go back and check all of your basic mechanics, grip, setup, swing plane, etc. then start hitting chips, then pitches, then half shots, til you hit those solidly. then work your way up to full shots again, starting with the high lofted clubs only. then when you get those down, go up to longer clubs. that should get you back on track.

[verse214]

Hi all,

Simplest answer I know and what it probably is:

You're casting the club at impact

[Duffy]

you can go back and check all of your basic mechanics, grip, setup, swing plane, etc. then start hitting chips, then pitches, then half shots, til you hit those solidly. then work your way up to full shots again, starting with the high lofted clubs only. then when you get those down, go up to longer clubs. that should get you back on track.

Well, I gave this tip a try today at the practice range and it worked well. I shanked my first shot with my PW and then I started making pure conyact again. Shanked a couple of 4i shots when I worked up to them and then started making pure contact once again.

Verse 214, I do have that problem from time to time but I don't think that it was responsible for the shanks. All in all I was very happy with my practice session today and I appreciate everyones help..

[GamerJG]

Well, I gave this tip a try today at the practice range and it worked well. I shanked my first shot with my PW and then I started making pure conyact again. Shanked a couple of 4i shots when I worked up to them and then started making pure contact once again.

good to hear duffy, i'm glad it helped. when i hit a couple off the hozzle, which happens from time to time. i'll just start from scratch with even my lob or sand wedge because they are easiest for me to swing. if it happens again, just repeat this to build up your contact again. when i'm struggling, i find it works for me to go back to square one and hit high loft clubs only to groove that swing again. one time recently i wasn't hitting the ball well so i went to the range and hit a large bucket with just wedges. when i went out to play, i used that swing on all my clubs and was hitting everything on the button. seems to work for me.

[Williamevanl]

I see this a lot. This happens because although each club is designed with a certain degree of loft and its all to easy to manipulate or deloft every club. Couple things here.

People read that pros deloft their clubs and think that they are supposed to do the same which they are but not by directly delofting. *as in they lead the club face with their hands but they don't shut the face down or smother the ball.

Everyone wants to hit it far.

Anyway in doing this you end up being able to hit 155 yard pw's but your other clubs are no longer functional because the 5,4,3 become un-hittable with that amount of delofting. So yea yardages just like you described of 170-180 with everything from a 7 down to a 2 iron.

I was guilty of this sort of thing when I started golfing actually, I used to occasionally hit a sw into a 140 yard downhill'ish par three. Now I hit a 9 iron Because I'm a better golfer. The difference is that my 9 iron does what it is supposed to do, flys high and comes back a foot or so as opposed to my delofted sw shot that would hit and roll forward.

I think amateur golfers would be better off learning what distance they could stop or check up a 6 or 5 iron and then judging their others clubs distances accordingly. Doing whatever makes the ball go further ultimately is detrimental to building a good golf swing.