Vaccines and Autism

[Valleygolfer]

[URL=http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/]http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/[/URL] [URL=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/health/policy/25autism.html?_r=0]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/health/policy/25autism.html?_r=0[/URL] He was a fraud and fabricated his "evidence".

I find it hard to trust anyone with health information , especially CNN or Fox news...or even grass roots opposers. I don't think that vaccines cause problems for the majority of the population but there are some cases that have had issues. I know thimerosal is out of most infant and pregnant inoculations but present in many adult vaccines. Mercury content is often higher than an allowable exposure for a month by OSHA. http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Memorial/Search-Memorial.aspx http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/08/06/Proof-That-Thimerosal-Induces-AutismLike-Neurotoxicity.aspx

[boogielicious]

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogielicious

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/health/policy/25autism.html?_r=0

He was a fraud and fabricated his "evidence".

I find it hard to trust anyone with health information , especially CNN or Fox news...or even grass roots opposers.

I don't think that vaccines cause problems for the majority of the population but there are some cases that have had issues. I know thimerosal is out of most infant and pregnant inoculations but present in many adult vaccines. Mercury content is often higher than an allowable exposure for a month by OSHA.

http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Memorial/Search-Memorial.aspx

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/08/06/Proof-That-Thimerosal-Induces-AutismLike-Neurotoxicity.aspx

We should start another thread on this.  It is a bit off topic for this thread.

[Valleygolfer]

We should start another thread on this.  It is a bit off topic for this thread.

Nah. I will just stop arguing about it. It is like fighting about religion.

[iacas]

Nah. I will just stop arguing about it. It is like fighting about religion.

I moved the posts here, to this existing thread. If you don't wish to talk about it, that's cool too.

[Valleygolfer]

http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/mit-researcher-glyphosate-herbicide-will-cause-half-of-all-children-to-have-autism-by-2025/#sthash.gv2Setja.dpuf

Not related to vaccines but related to autism.

[tmac20]

Correlation =/= Causation.

[colin007]

Is it possible, that one time, once, since vaccines have been given, that a vaccine caused a kid to go autistic?

[boogielicious]

Is it possible, that one time, once, since vaccines have been given, that a vaccine caused a kid to go autistic?

You could make the same argument for water.

[dsc123]

Is it possible, that one time, once, since vaccines have been given, that a vaccine caused a kid to go autistic?

Anything is possible. But to declare it to be a truth, shouldnt it be proven with fact rather than conjecture?

[Zeph]

Really? So the children that develope autism or autistic behavior after receiving vaccines doesn't create a link? Or do you just believe that the the "science" behind the testing is so trustable?

It might be a correlation there, but that does not imply causation. There are over 7 billion people in the world. I'm sure it would be no problem finding any kind of links if you wanted to. 10 people drank a bottle of Coke one day and all of them caught pneumonia. Does that mean the Coke caused the pneumonia? And if it did, would it cause it for everyone else? Or could there be special circumstances that caused it?

I know medicine is a business where they never talk in absolutes, and drugs has a certain documented working rate. A lot of medicine or ways used in medicine in the past has been proven to be doing more bad than good, and consequently been taken out of use. The industry learn something new every day and I think our medicinal ways will always be getting better.

There might be hiccups and road bumps on the way, but more information is always better. A medicine regarded as safe today might give long-term effects over multiple decades. And those effects are hard to identify, since it is mostly based on trials.

I'm not a doctor or pharmacist, but as a layman, I don't find the "evidence" provided by those suggesting vaccines cause autism to be good enough. And I definitely don't believe in a conspiracy of some rich people, medical companies, science labs, universities, governments etc. where they would deliberately give children vaccines that they knew autism.