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Got out after work to play 9 today, and played like crap, shot 10 over...... but....

After the 8th hole, I couldnt get into any kind of rhythm or anything and decided to experiment a little on the 9th. I realized (after 8 friggin holes) that I fell into old habits and starting casting the club on my downswing.

Im a habitual caster by the way. So I decided to tee off with my hybrid, which I hate by the way because of duck hooks, and purposefully try lag the crap out of the club on the way down.

Felt weird on the practice swings, like I'd be releasing the club too late, thought I would push the shot. Anyways, it was the cleanest shot Ive ever made in my life. I held that angle as long as possible and then just released the club, I sent the ball about 225 with the hybrid, nice high draw.

So I dropped four or five balls at diff distances between 150 and 80 yards.

I dont usually take divots but I tried doing that extreme lag thing again and every shot was sending dirt all the way up into my eyes and face and the ball flight was just beautiful. You could also hear the ball zing for the first 20 or 30 yards after impact.

I couldnt believe how well I was striking the ball....

Anyways, onto my question, do you guys consciencelessly lag the club? Also is this the "correct" way to swing? I know I was exagerating the feeling but is this the proper way to swing?

By lagging the club so much I was probably able to rotate and clear my hips before I even impacted the ball, a problem Ive been having. I jam myself up and am closed at impact sometimes. I think this helped! Now to just groove this into muscle memory!

It felt really good and I thought I'd just throw those questions out there. Thanks for reading my novel of a post!

Jim

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Without a video of your swing, it's impossible to tell. What you feel and what happens usually are two very different things.
The feeling of disconnection is something I can feel too. They say you shouldn't conciously lag the club, it should happen as a result of doing things right. The problem is that if you've done something wrong for a long time, you may have to force some feelings into the swing to un-learn bad habits.

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I haven't played much over the last two months but I hope that by mid December that my time for golf will pick up.

On one of the last rounds I played at my old home course I had a simular revelation. I was on a level par 3 over water the entire way...somewhat of a false front on the green and the stick was ~140 yards....wind was dead. I decided to hit 8 iron and putt back to the pin. This strategy was shared by my two playing partners that day.

We pulled our clubs and walked up to the tee box and hit. The 3hcp stiffed his nicely.....the 6 hcp hit a good one, too. I put a smooth swing on my 8 iron and the ball looked decent...nice high trajectory...peaking...dead on line with the pin............ball lands well short on the front fringe and rolls back into the water.

I was shocked...no wind....good pass at the ball.....confused.

The 3hcp clued me in after I asked....he said that I shorcut myself....had no lag as the club went into the impact zone. I flipped it under the ball, thus the high trajectory and short distance.

I worked on a drill while they putted out....placed a tee in the end of my grip (little hole in the bottom of virtually every grip on the market). I swung several times with the intent of keeping that tee pointed at my target line earlier in my backswing and longer during my downswing.

The good feeling swing and release returned. Just for the heck of it I dropped a found ball where I stood (~150yards back to the tee box). I hit the ball and watched as it soared nicely to the tee box. The feel through impact was sweet.

I worked that swing thought/drill throughout the round and things improved mightily.


Lag is a huge part of ballstriking for me. When I'm casting out and coming accross the ball things get really ugly. When I get it in the slot and lag it through my downswing the club just releases through the ball with ease and power.....accuracy is soooo much better.

Grip pressure and tempo are my other focus areas....sort of my own trifecta of the swing.

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Its so funny. Every time I come back from some golf outing with my own revelation, I come to these forums and find out that someone else had the same exact revelation! I was at the range yesterday and just was hitting like crap. I was casting like a mad-man just like you. I decided to "point the butt end of the club at the ball" as long as I could from the top of the swing. Man, those swings felt weird, but I really could feel the weight of the head hanging back and it just felt like I was slinging it out there without any effort. I think this will be my main focus while I practice the rest of the winter....feels good don't it?


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Its so funny. Every time I come back from some golf outing with my own revelation, I come to these forums and find out that someone else had the same exact revelation! I was at the range yesterday and just was hitting like crap. I was casting like a mad-man just like you. I decided to "point the butt end of the club at the ball" as long as I could from the top of the swing. Man, those swings felt weird, but I really could feel the weight of the head hanging back and it just felt like I was slinging it out there without any effort. I think this will be my main focus while I practice the rest of the winter....

Feeling a ball pured.....mashed....off any stick is a wonderful feeling!!!!

I hope to get that feeling more often.
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Burner Superfast 3 & 5 woods (house MATRIX OZIK XCON-4.8)
G15 Hybrid 23* (AWT shaft)
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Studio Select Newport 2 Mid SlantGrips: PING cords & Golf Pride New Decade Multi-Coumpound Bag: C-130...

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Feeling a ball pured.....mashed....off any stick is a wonderful feeling!!!!

It feels even better with a blade!

"points down at sig" Too bad I've only got a bladed 3 iron. I've pured it a few times though!

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Yea there is always a revelation with me, but this one was nice, Ive never pured so many shots in a row before!

I like that tee drill, think im gonna work on that right now

Jim

In my Ogio Blade Stand Bag:
 

TaylorMade Burner 10.5*

Adams Insight BUL 15*
Taylormade RBZ 3H

TaylorMade RBZ 4-AW

Vokey SM4 54-11

Cleveland CG14 58 2 dot wedge

Ping Karsten Series Craz-E putter

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Yea there is always a revelation with me, but this one was nice, Ive never pured so many shots in a row before!

yes lag is the proper way tro hit a golf ball thinking of keeping the mizzys now?


Posted

LOL, I would have kept em now, but they sold so I cant do that. Oh well, I like the G10s, they dont punish me like the mizzies did

Jim

In my Ogio Blade Stand Bag:
 

TaylorMade Burner 10.5*

Adams Insight BUL 15*
Taylormade RBZ 3H

TaylorMade RBZ 4-AW

Vokey SM4 54-11

Cleveland CG14 58 2 dot wedge

Ping Karsten Series Craz-E putter

Top Flite Gamer


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