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What would Asian model Taylor Made Burners mean?
I seen a few pics and they look the same?
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What a disappointment, based on the title I thought this thread was about something totally different!

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What a disappointment, based on the title I thought this thread was about something totally different!

haha... I was going to say my favorite asian model has nothing whatsoever to do with golf!

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I was also wondering what this thread was doing in the equipment forum...

I know nothing about Asian Taylormade clubs. If I had to guess, that could mean that it's actually higher than the .83 COR or whatever the USGA limit is. I know they used to make non-conforming models because the European governing golf association didn't require .83 like the USGA. But that's just a guess.

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Driver - Taylormade Superfast 2.0 TP 10.5
3 Wood - Taylormade Burner 15* REAX
Hybrid - Adams Idea Pro 18* GD YSQ-HL

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Putter - Cameron Studio Style Newport 2

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Most OEMs make different clubs for Asia (specifically Japan). Usually they are different all together, but maybe they are lighter, or heavier, or (maybe more likely) shorter.

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Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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What would Asian model Taylor Made Burners mean?

I see you got one narrow-minded response, suggesting that Asian specs = counterfeit? That guy probably never travelled outside of his home state. Anyway, one of the other replies you got was right on the money - the main difference is in the shaft weight and flex. The Asian spec shafts tend to be lighter and more flexible. For example, an Asian S flex is probably closer to a STD R flex and and an Asian R flex = STD Senior flex. Certainly the majority of Asian golfers are smaller build than the majority of caucasian golfers, so the no doubt the lighter shafts are more helpful. There probably an ego thing involved also - many golfers won't want to feel inferior by carrying R flex shafts, so for the Asian markets, the manufacturers take an R flex shaft and label it as an SR or even an S flex. It's the same with clothing, go figure this out - Buying Shirts, back in UK I would be considered in XL range. If I buy Asian spec shirts, I need to buy 3XL, but if I buy US spec shirts (Ashworth), I can get in a Medium. Seems the Asians want to appear to be bigger than they actually are but Americans want to appear smaller?
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G10 9° Driver
G10 17° 4 Wood
G10 21° Hybrid i15 4-PW Tour-W Wedges 50/12 & 56/10 Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2 (35")Balls - Bridgestone B330-RX

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I see you got one narrow-minded response, suggesting that Asian specs = counterfeit? That guy probably never travelled outside of his home state.

To add to that, one thing that TaylorMade specifically does, is they make a forged Burner model for the asian market. That could be what these are. I've seen them actually, a guy at the course I play has a set. Pretty cool looking clubs.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TaylorMade-BURNE...item1e57d57cde

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Since I live here in Japan, I'll give my 2 cents.

The biggest difference is lie angle and shaft length, for one obvious reason: the average height of Japanese golfers is different than their US counterpart's.

The other differences are dependent on the brand: Acushnet Japan is producing the club heads in Japan for the Titleist line, for example. (and in China for the other markets, as far as I've been told by one of their rep.)

TaylorMade is offering SR flexes off the shelves here in Japan, and the default steel shaft is usually the Nippon Shaft 950GH instead of Dynamic Gold in the US. Small things like that.
Also, some custom shafts considered "exotic" in the US are standard here, and vice-versa.

So, in general, unless you're buying Titleist clubs from Japan, the main difference is that the shaft specs (i.e. brand, type, length) will be different.

As far as driver shafts go, that actually suits me very fine, since for instance, the TM R9 Superti comes with a more manageable 45.25" shaft standard, not the monster 45.75" default option of the US model.

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I was also wondering what this thread was doing in the equipment forum...

look up taylormade xr-03

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