Vokey Spin Milled Wedge. . . .

[Bug Bunny]

Okay guys, just looking for a few opinions. I got serious about playing last year and took several lessons and resumed that this spring. I'm playing bogey golf for the most part and that is mostly because of my one mis-hit or bad shot every third or fourth hole. I have the Adams A3OS Complete Set and added a TM Spider putter. So my question is. . .


Is it too soon to replace my sand wedge with a vokey 56 spin milled? I am decent with my wedge now but can't seem to get any spin or control at all. I'll probably already have bought it before getting any replies but wanted them anyway. Thanks!!

[Grimass]

Never too soon to upgrade to better equipment. Look for one used if you don't want a brand new one. Also, do you have just a pitching wedge and a sand wedge, or do you have a gap and/or lob wedge too?

[Bug Bunny]

Well my set came with a 44 pw and a 54 sw. I added a used cleveland last year and had it bent to 49 as a gap wedge. It hits nice so Ii'll be keeping it as well. Also, I really like the black nickle and haven't bought anything in a while so I will probably just buy new!

[sean_miller]

Okay guys, just looking for a few opinions. I got serious about playing last year and took several lessons and resumed that this spring. I'm playing bogey golf for the most part and that is mostly because of my one mis-hit or bad shot every third or fourth hole. I have the Adams A3OS Complete Set and added a TM Spider putter. So my question is. . .

When you say "control", do you mean aim, trajectory, or distance control?

[Bug Bunny]

Well, aim and trajectory are pretty good but the roll out usually puts me well past the flag. As said, I'm a novice but in playing with a few experienced folks, they advised me that I'm getting no spin with the adams wedge. Not expecting to back every shot up 30 feet. Just tired of every shot rolling 30 feet after it lands!

[sean_miller]

Well, aim and trajectory are pretty good but the roll out usually puts me well past the flag. As said, I'm a novice but in playing with a few experienced folks, they advised me that I'm getting no spin with the adams wedge. Not expecting to back every shot up 30 feet. Just tired of every shot rolling 30 feet after it lands!

What yardage are you talking about where a shot rolls out 30 feet? I'd say your trajectory is at least part of the problem - have you considered a lob wedge? Maybe even a Vokey?

[Bug Bunny]

Short shots are what I'm referring to, 50 yards and in. On shots where bump and run are out and I need a soft landing. Please understand I'm not saying all my shots are perfect. I'm sure they need lots more work. But none of them have any type control after they land!

[TopWalker]

What type of ball are you playing? There's a big difference between a regular wedge and a surlyn covered ball vs. a Vokey and a urethane ball. I ran into this problem last year and am now getting the hang of it as I use the latter option.

The former will have more run out while the latter will have more check/less roll out.

Maybe mix n match to get what you're looking for.

TW

[Bug Bunny]

I play a srixon ad333 now.

[Gebus]

like Topwalker said it could be the ball your are playing but more importantly how you hit the ball, on a 50 yard shot I can do everything from have the ball release 30 feet to spin backwards 10-15 feet depending on how I strike the ball. My guess is that changing your ball to something like the PROV1 will probably have more effect than changing the wedge. One suggestion I can give you though some may disagree with me is try to keep your wedges in sets. Try not to have one vokey one cleveland and one adams in a set as it will be much harder to gain confidence in three different wedges than one wedge in three differn't loss.

One way to cheat and see if it is the wedge or the ball or simply the swing try this: hit your 50 yard shot but make sure your hands lead the club all the way through (lock your wrists) keep the ball a little back in your stance with your feet close together and make a up-down swing path (as opposed to inside outside) and hit down on the ball,. If the ball doesn't at least check up with that swing the equipment is the issue.

[jhawker23]

My 2 cents which may only be 1 cent... If you upgrade your wedges you'll be practicing and improving your game with the equipment you'll eventually want anyway. You will undoubtedly get more performance from stepping up your wedges. You'll be back to adjusting to the new performance.

[Bug Bunny]

Gebus and jhawker,

Thanks for the advise. Eveuntually I want a complete set of the vokey wedges so I don't mind them being mismatched for the time being. I will try the swing and see what happens. Will also try a different ball. I'm not at a confidence level to play a high end ball yet. Close, but not quite. I still lose 2-3 a round!

[Gebus]

As a struggling student I feel your pain for not wanting to lose 5$ golf balls, it was a happy day when I made the university team with the titleist sponsorship that comes with it. My best suggestion to you is check out lostgolfballs.com and pickup some PROV1s their. Trust me its worth having the best ball possible. By the way if you do want to have a complete set make sure you buy them this year as of next year finding wedges with old grooves will be VERY difficult, to the point that some of my teammates and I ordered two of each wedge this season.

[James_Black]

the ball will spin a lot more than your last wedge.
With my 60* the ball stops on the second bounce when chipping.

They're really nice wedges

[Zeph]

Without good impact, you can play brand new Vokeys and older, softer Pro V1s and still not get spin. I know because I've been there myself. At handicap 18, I would look at the swing and ball striking rather than the equipment.

[Dad-2-3]

Without good impact, you can play brand new Vokeys and older, softer Pro V1s and still not get spin. I know because I've been there myself. At handicap 18, I would look at the swing and ball striking rather than the equipment.

+1

It took me all of last season to figure out how to impact the ball so that it had enough spin to stop in the general vicinity I wanted it to. The ball and equipment certainly have something to do with it, but ball striking is more important IMO.

[boogielicious]

Bugs,

I've switched to Vokey SM and am about the same experience/level as you. I play a Titleist NXT Tour ball and have no problem getting the ball to check up. They are very nice wedges. Just make sure that you cover the gaps in distance. I play the Adams A4s and the PW is 45, so I got a 50-08 and 56-10 SM. I had a Cleveland CG14 52 and had good results with that too.

[mtsalmela80]

Too add to this thread, I am also considering at least one new wedge, probably lob. Question is, if I go buy a used vokey, that is maybe 2 years old, will the fact that the grooves are worn take away from the performance greatly?

I mean what is better, a 2 year old vokey, or something like a brand new adams or lower end mizuno wedge?