280+ yard golf swing

[saevel25]

Here you go, tons and tons of video of my drive swing.

While your at it if there is any tips, let them fly ;b

Down the Line


Face On

[nuck81]

Thats a really aggressive swing. Wish I could do that and make contact with the ball lol...

[saevel25]

Well scary thing is, it use to be faster. Thats with slowing down the hands so i don't snap hook the crap out of it. Right now i am driving the ball very well. I would say in the down the line number of shots, there were two flags about 40 yards apart i was hitting down the middle of, I hit it in between those two flags all but 3 of the times. The other three misses were a slight pull left twice and one i didn't get through and hit a high cut.

[delav]

Lot's of clubhead speed there, but I think there is room for improvement.

You are pretty far inside on the way back, hands are pretty low at the top too. I'd work on proper swing plane for your takeaway and shorten up the backswing a bit.

It's hard to see your ballflight in the video, but I'd guess it was either a pull or a left-to-right ball? You seem to be pulling across the ball a bit to start your downswing, rather than allowing your hips to help your hands drop into place.

[saevel25]

yeah that video was taken with my digital camera, it sapped the life out a set of batteries ;b

Umm... Yeah i got a bit of a swing plane issue, but when i try to get it on plane i feel like i get disconnected from my body. So i got to figure out how to get my self on plane and keep the connection. I am trying to get rid of the need for me to use my hands to time up my golf swing so much.

The ball flight is like a rocket, its actually a pretty good ball flight. The ball is a slight left to right, but its mostly straight, maybe 3-5 yards left to right at most. if i hang on it turns into a 15 yarder, if i turn over to much with the hands, its a pull left. I have a slight over the top move in my swing, but that puts me on plane in the dowswing, but still causes a slight out to in.

"You seem to be pulling across the ball a bit to start your downswing, rather than allowing your hips to help your hands drop into place. "

Explain this more? what do you mean pulling across the ball? and what would you suggest to fix this.

I know i over-swing, a couple of swings in the face on view i shortened it up a bit. I usually start the club back with my hands, i am trying to make a conscious effort to start it back with shoulder turn more. Then it feels more connected and i can just rotate my shoulders through and unleash hell.

[delav]

yeah that video was taken with my digital camera, it sapped the life out a set of batteries ;b

First - fixing your takeaway will help with your shallow swing plane. Think about keeping your hands in front of your chest while your rotate, but extending away from the ball along the plane. Tiger described this well in a golf digest article. He tries to take the club back along the plane dictated his club shaft at address.

Your first move from the top seems to be with your left arm and left shoulder. Think of allowing your hands to drop (vertically) as your hips release slightly, instead of racing with your hands and arms to uncoil. This move generates "lag." I find that most of my pulls on full swings (moving across the ball at the top) happen when I am not making a complete shoulder turn. I'd work making sure that you are turning your shoulders 90 degrees (or more) at the top of your backswing. Golf-specific stretching has helped me immensely here. With a bit more lag, shoulder turn and an ideal path into the ball, there is no reason you shouldn't be able to add 10-20 yards.

[grantc79]

Your swing is very, very obsessively long.

You have a takeaway similar to John Daly's. You just turn like crazy which honestly isn't a good thing.

You seem to be inside but its impossible to tell just how much due to the camera angle you have. I don't think you are that far inside to be honest, not as much as you think anyway. That camera angle just makes it look very inside.

You mention having a handsy take away, do you realize if you use a shoulder turn take away you are liable to wind up more inside?

Why don't you try the take away method I use?

I posted a thread about it here:

http://thesandtrap.com/forum/threads...n-my-new-drill

[saevel25]

Lets be more correct here, adding 10-20 yards when i shorten my swing, so really it would probably be the same with out overswinging ;b Lets not get my hopes up here..

Well if i was to make a proper turn, were would i feel a stretch in my body? Because i use to find myself in trouble with not making a shoulder turn and i would pull the heck out of it.

Would it be better to get over the ball more, does it seem like i am to upright. Because i notice that i maintain the spine angle pretty well in the backswing, so would this be an issue?

[imtomtomim]

Lot's of clubhead speed there, but I think there is room for improvement.

I think all of that is in the setup. I'm not sure if you notice but take a better look at the routine. You put the club down, plant your feet, and then you lean forward closer to the ball and move your hands out more, all without moving your feet closer. That gives you no real choice but to come back to the inside. I'd try to maintain that taller posture that you step up to the ball with so you can take the club back on a more direct line without manipulating your posture. You're holding your posture well within the swing but prior to it, you like to bow down a bit, seems like weight goes to your toes, and your hands move about a wrist width away from you.

[saevel25]

Well by starting with the shoulder first i am going to try to take out my hands from going beind me. I will keep my hands infront of my chest more. Right now i feel like i start with my hands and bring them back, but i take them back way to much to the inside. What i want to do is get rid of the hands and use the natural shoulder turn to dictate were the hands go. I think my issue is that i stand to upright. I think this causes me to loose my angle. Because i think i fear a big pull or hook in the ball, so i take it so far inside so it counters my issues with that.

[delav]

You should feel a stretch along the left side of your mid and lower back. I can recommend some stretches that have really opened up my shoulder turn and made an impact in my consistency.

Also... you are NOT adding any distance with a big backswing. :) Nor a fast one. Tightening up your backswing and find the inside path to the ball will pay off big time in consistency and power.

If you let your right hand be a bit more dominant at the top (maintain the wrist angle) you can generate more torque and get the club in an better spot than it flopping around at the top.

[saevel25]

So your basically saying when i do that tap on the ground then reach out more towards the ball, i extend my hands away from my body. So your saying rather than that, get set up closer probably about 1-2 inches so my hands are not as far away from my body. So this will in turn cause me to take the club more away from the ball than to the inside making my plane less flat and to the inside.

[grantc79]

So your basically saying when i do that tap on the ground then reach out more towards the ball, i extend my hands away from my body. So your saying rather than that, get set up closer probably about 1-2 inches so my hands are not as far away from my body. So this will in turn cause me to take the club more away from the ball than to the inside making my plane less flat and to the inside.

Look not to sound too confrontational but your problem isn't whether you stand too close or too far from the ball.

If you are too far inside then standing closer to the ball to the ball in an effort to make your swing different is going to only cause more problems. The problem is in your hands. Your hands are acting improperly in your swing. Your hands in a golf swing is like hinges on a door in carpentry. You can have a perfectly formed beautiful door with wonderful inlays and fantastic molding surrounding it and if the hinges aren't set properly you don't have a door at all but a very expensive covered hole in the wall. Learn how to take the club away properly on plane and let that dictate where you stand. Don't figure out where you want to stand and then try to work everything else out.

[saevel25]

Ok i get that, i was confused by what you were saying.

If i stop the image, when my hands are waist high, the hands position there is pretty good... The toe of the clubhead is pointing to the sky. I guess my issue is after that, i continue to bring my hands inside on it. So i guess the fix would be to try to get my hands to elivate more. But when i do that, i tend to pull the ball alot. But its a necessary fix, i guess there is another issue causing me to pull the ball when i am on plane, which probably lies in the transition to the downswing and how overly active my hips are.

[Shanks A Million]

Look not to sound too confrontational but your problem isn't whether you stand too close or too far from the ball.

That, and every single impact here is on the heel, you can clearly hear it from the metalic sound (and you can see it in a few imact frames). Modern drivers are really obvious as to where you hit them to the sound. That's causing a super low launch with high spin. You've repeatedly told us how you drive the ball 300+ regularly, but I would assume from seeing this you also hit it 220 regularly.

Here's some solidly struck G10s.

[iacas]

You should feel a stretch along the left side of your mid and lower back.

Huh? When should you feel that stretch? Not on the backswing... you tilt to your left on the backswing. The stretching is on the right side of your body on the backswing and the left side through teh ball.

Additionally, your hands aren't too deep. They're too far out. They're above the plane. You're in Dayton. That's not far. You should come to a clinic/school. We have one spot left for our May 22 school...

[delav]

Huh? When should you feel that stretch? Not on the backswing... you tilt to your left on the backswing. The stretching is on the right side of your body on the backswing and the left side through teh ball.

Iacas, I think you are right, assuming the player can already make a full shoulder turn.

I think we may be talking about symptoms of different issues, spine tilt versus shoulder rotation. When my overall flexibility was restricting a full shoulder turn (as it was me early this season) the tension had been in the left side of the back as I was working against these muscles to complete a shoulder turn. I believe this is different than what you are describing, where spine tilt is stretching muscles along the right side of the back at the top of the backswing?

[atrapasuenos]

That, and every single impact here is on the heel, you can clearly hear it from the metalic sound (and you can see it in a few imact frames). Modern drivers are really obvious as to where you hit them to the sound. That's causing a super low launch with high spin. You've repeatedly told us how you drive the ball 300+ regularly, but I would assume from seeing this you also hit it 220 regularly.

Hahaha you add some special touch to this forum man! Second video is impresive! Sounds incredible!

Greetings!