Jump to content
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
Note: This thread is 5690 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Posted
I'm ready to make the switch. After giving up on my swing due to consistent issues I'm making the switch. Now I want to know where should I start with learning the swing? Do I get the book or are there videos that teach it better.

In My Ogio Octane Bag
DRIVER
SQ Dymo Str8-Fit 9.5 Stiff Flex
IRONS
CCi 3i-PW S400 ShaftsWEDGES 258.12° Vokey 252.08° VokeyFAIRWAY WOODS Burner 15° 3 Wood Stiff FlexPUTTER Classic 1 Putter


Posted
Get the book and read it carefully. Preferably a couple of times. There's a ton of useful, free visuals on YouTube, too.

Stretch.

"In the process of trial and error, our failed attempts are meant to destroy arrogance and provoke humility." -- Master Jin Kwon

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
as a bona fide devils advocate, i must ask: if you're having inconsistency issues with your swing as it is, what makes you think learning a new one will make you more consistent?

Posted
as a bona fide devils advocate, i must ask: if you're having inconsistency issues with your swing as it is, what makes you think learning a new one will make you more consistent?

Haha, good question. I could have posted the OP 7 weeks ago. I say, get stacked - it is really worth it :D

If you need help on the way to get stacked, look here, there http://www.thestackandtiltgolfswing.com/ or there http://forum.thegolfevolution.com/ (they even have online tuition )

Posted
as a bona fide devils advocate, i must ask: if you're having inconsistency issues with your swing as it is, what makes you think learning a new one will make you more consistent?

S&T is not a "new" swing, it is probably 90% what most professionals do, with some adjustments to make things easier.

Ogio Grom | Callaway X Hot Pro | Callaway X-Utility 3i | Mizuno MX-700 23º | Titleist Vokey SM 52.08, 58.12 | Mizuno MX-700 15º | Titleist 910 D2 9,5º | Scotty Cameron Newport 2 | Titleist Pro V1x and Taylormade Penta | Leupold GX-1

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
I haven't seen the videos, but I think the S&T book is very helpful. In addition, I'd recommend watching some S&T swings on youtube from instructors like David Wedzik, Mike Bennett, Nick Clearwater, Dan Carraher, and Dana Dalqhuist.

Callaway Big Bertha 460
Callaway X 3-wood 15*
Adams Idea Tech hybrid 19*
Titleist DCI 981 irons
Ping iwedge 56*, 52*Carbite Putter


Posted
as a bona fide devils advocate, i must ask: if you're having inconsistency issues with your swing as it is, what makes you think learning a new one will make you more consistent?

Generally a good question, but S&T is about as simple as a swing can get. I'd say that he will be simplifying his swing if he follows the book or videos. IMO, simplicity is the easiest way to acheive consistency.

Callaway FT-9 Tour I-mix 9.5° Driver (Fujikura Zcom Pro 65 stiff)
Mizuno F-50 15° 3w (Exsar FS2 stiff)
Bridgestone J36 19° Hybrid (Aldila VS Proto 80 stiff)
Adams Idea Pro 23° Hybrid (Aldila VS Proto 80 stiff)
Adams Idea Pro Forged 5-pw Irons (DG Black Gold stiff)Nike SV Tour Black Satin...

Posted
You won't regret making the switch. I switched this year myself and contact/direction/distance have all vastly improved. I read (and re-read) the book and thought it was so simple to follow. Great pictures and commentary as well to show and tell you how things should feel. Good luck!

BO THE GOLFER

In my Top Flite stand bag:

Driver-Ping G400+ 10.5 degrees regular flex Hybrids-Ping I25 17 & 20 degrees stiff flex Irons-Ping I3 O-size 4 through lob wedge regular flex Putter-Nike Oz 6


Posted

One word of warning, don't expect a magic bullet. Learning a new swing is hard, as is erasing the muscle memory of your old swing. My own experience, which seems to closely mirror what others have posted here and elsewhere about adopting S&T;, was of an immediate perceived improvement in ball striking from consciously keeping the weight forward. (Insert Keanu Reeves "whoa!" here). Then there's a period of mild adjustment as you start trying to work in the other master moves and everything's still mostly copacetic -- nice contact, maybe start to get a little draw going, flashes of the "right" feeling through the whole swing. Then, you try to think about and do too many things at once and you start to hit the ball badly. Very badly. Then a lot of people give up.

Anyway, I've been working hard on it for about a month and I'm hoping that I'll start coming out the other side sometime, with something resembling a functional S&T; swing. Good luck in your journey. And take it nice and slow!

Stretch.

"In the process of trial and error, our failed attempts are meant to destroy arrogance and provoke humility." -- Master Jin Kwon

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted

Reading that again, it comes off as more negative than I meant it to be. Don't want to scare you off!

As much as I am having some frustrating issues getting into the S&T; groove, I'm also consistently doing some things much better than I ever could before. Here's a picture of the results of four iron swings I took today at balls sitting on the line between the two club shafts.



There's no way in hell that all those divots would have been ahead of the ball position with my old swing. I would have picked one clean, maybe, hit one fat, one thin etc. etc. So S&T; has already helped me a lot in one very important area -- getting consistently good contact. If I can add some consistency in shot direction and ball flight to that building block, I'll be miles ahead of where I started from when I picked up the book.

In summary, give it a shot (or, more realistically, a couple of hundred shots.)

Stretch.

"In the process of trial and error, our failed attempts are meant to destroy arrogance and provoke humility." -- Master Jin Kwon

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
One word of warning, don't expect a magic bullet. Learning a new swing is hard, as is erasing the muscle memory of your old swing. My own experience, which seems to closely mirror what others have posted here and elsewhere about adopting S&T, was of an immediate perceived improvement in ball striking from consciously keeping the weight forward. (Insert Keanu Reeves "whoa!" here). Then there's a period of mild adjustment as you start trying to work in the other master moves and everything's still mostly copacetic -- nice contact, maybe start to get a little draw going, flashes of the "right" feeling through the whole swing. Then, you try to think about and do too many things at once and you start to hit the ball badly. Very badly. Then a lot of people give up.

I don't think your reply was negative. In fact, without instruction, it's pretty accurate.

I bought the book and have tried to incorporate many of the aspects of the S&T swing. At first things were great...then not so great. Right now, I am somewhere in between. I am sure it would help if my practice wasn't limited to my time on the course every other week. Fortunately, I am in the office all this next week and I will get to work on the some more of the pieces...hopefully it will come together soon.

Note: This thread is 5690 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • Wordle 1,642 4/6* ⬛⬛🟧⬛⬛ ⬛🟧🟧⬛⬛ ⬛🟧🟧⬛⬛ 🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧
    • Day 22: mirror work for a while. Working on my elbow in the downswing - keeping it in a better position. 
    • Day 36 (16 Dec 25) - continued the exaggerated left foot weight shift trigger adding some easy low flighted pitches with the 5h and a few putting style bump and runs with the 5h as well.
    • Day 442 - 2025-12-16 Got some swings in at an indoor academy a little south of Erie.
    • Has anyone played the new Maxfli forged irons? For the first time in I don't know how many years, they have come out with new clubs. From what I read, Maxfli was bought by Taylor Made a long time ago which then took all of their ball making technology and patents in order to get into that market. The club business was left to whither and the reorganized company, now a part of Dicks / Golfworks / Maltby, is producing these new clubs. (Their Tour X balls which I play are really good.) Anyway, I tried them both out at Golf Galaxy. There's a player's distance iron (XC-3) and a blade (XC-2) and both feel really, really nice, almost "Mizuno-like" in their soft buttery feel and they're a bargain at $800 for a set. I'm planning to ditch my Titleist's and want to go back to a forged iron. I almost pulled the trigger on the Mizuno Pro-245's last summer, but a damaged tendon sheath in my finger combined with a back injury messed up my golf game so I held off. Now the Pro-245's are no longer available, soon to be replaced by the MX-15. (At twice the price of the Maxfli's...that's what got my attention in the first place.) If anyone has played with the new Maxfli's or just tried them out like I did, let me know what you think.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.