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I'm looking for a ball that spins less than a prov1. But still have enough spin were it will stop on the green and roll off. Would it be Bridgestone 6 or nxt tour?

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I'm looking for a ball that spins less than a prov1. But still have enough spin were it will stop on the green and roll off. Would it be Bridgestone 6 or nxt tour?

I haven't had enough time with the trispeed to conclude it's as good, but the NXT was my golf standard for this type of ball and I think the srixon is damn close.

For what it's worth, the e6 and e7 don't feel as good as the NXT tour around the green.

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Srixon Z Star, Srixon Trispeed, Titleist NXT Tour, Bridgestone e6

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ProV1x spins less than the Pro V1. Each premium ball has a lower-spin version that helps to decrease spin but they still bite due to the eurethane covers they have.
the NXT Tour or most 30$ three-piece balls will spin less but still have some bite.

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ProV1x spins less than the Pro V1. Each premium ball has a lower-spin version that helps to decrease spin but they still bite due to the eurethane covers they have. the NXT Tour or most 30$ three-piece balls will spin less but still have some bite.

Did any one see the new golf digest ball review, it actually shows the pro v 1x spinns more than pro v1 on half wegde shots? To the OP Taylormade Black's are a good choice they spin the most of any ball in that price range but not as much as Pro v's...

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I still say the Callaway HX-Hot is one of the best balls ever made. It's soft, so it goes really high, and lands softly, and it won't rip back on you. Also, the Bridgestone Tour B-330 seems pretty decent too, I find the B-330S and B-330RX to be way too gummy feeling. The Precept EV Extra spin, though, is really nice if you like low spin. It flies a lot farther than the ProV1, which is why I couldn't use it, it messed up my yardages with irons (it was about 10 yards too long).

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Did any one see the new golf digest ball review, it actually shows the pro v 1x spinns more than pro v1 on half wegde shots?

I did see the golfdigest report but the ProV1x spins less off the driver. Did the OP ask for a ball that spun less on wedges? No, he actually wants a ball that still bites around the greens and that's exactly what the ProV1x does


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nxt tour spins less but it barely spins at all. the bridgestone is a really good ball, i played them for a while at the beginning of last year and i really liked it

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I'm looking for a ball that spins less than a prov1. But still have enough spin were it will stop on the green and roll off. Would it be Bridgestone 6 or nxt tour?

What kind of shot is rolling off? A 3-wood approach on par 5 or a 9 iron from the fairway? A pitch shot from the rough?

How hard are your greens? Try any ball with the word "FEEL" on the box.

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I did see the golfdigest report but the ProV1x spins less off the driver. Did the OP ask for a ball that spun less on wedges? No, he actually wants a ball that still bites around the greens and that's exactly what the ProV1x does

The largest seperation of spin, I.E. the most with the wedges, and the least with the driver was the Callaway HX Tour series ball.


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I'll pick up a sleeve of the callaway hx and give them a shot.

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I'll pick up a sleeve of the callaway hx and give them a shot.

The the Tour iZ or iS, or whatever, the lower spin model. The older HX-Tour balls are good too if you can find them. Callaways are really sweet off the driver, one place the ProV1 lacks a bit.


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andef,

If I remember right, one of the golf magazines had an x-y grid plotting golf balls by spin and some other factor.

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andef,

Dude, they had something like "desirability" as a factor? How subjective were their gold and silver medals - seriously!?!?

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Dude, they had something like "desirability" as a factor? How subjective were their gold and silver medals - seriously!?!?

Once a golf mag publishes an article telling you to dump your clubs if they're more than two years old, what did you expect?

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Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:image.png.b6c3447dddf0df25e482bf21abf775ae.pngInertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
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I'm looking for a ball that spins less than a prov1. But still have enough spin were it will stop on the green and roll off. Would it be Bridgestone 6 or nxt tour?

You want the Bridgestone E5, not the 6. The 5 has a urethane cover, the 6 has a surylin. The 5 will give you more spin.

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I did see the golfdigest report but the ProV1x spins less off the driver. Did the OP ask for a ball that spun less on wedges? No, he actually wants a ball that still bites around the greens and that's exactly what the ProV1x does

Umm yea actually the OP did ask for a ball that spins less, he said the Pro V was too much, check again? And I was jus stating that because I thought it was intresting that 1x spins more than v1 on half wedge shots..!!

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TaylorMade Burner Superfast 2.0 TP 8.5*
Cobra Baffler Pro 18* Aldila NV Hybrid Stiff
TaylorMade 300 Forged 3-PW Rifle Flighted 6.0 Stiff
Cleavland 691 Tour Action 52* CG10 58*All wraped in Itomic Tacki-mac grips Oddesy White Hot #4 cut down to 33 1/2" Tempest...


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