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So today me and my buddy decide to back up and play our usual course from the tips. The day is going along pretty good and I come to hole 17 and I am -1 on the back nine. This hole is a nerve wracking drive with water guarding short and right and a bunker guarding left. I hit a good drive to the fairway and I am 139 out. My PW is usually 130-135 but there is a good wind in my face so I am debating about a strong PW or choked down 9 iron. I decide to hit the knockdown 9 and hit a great shot that is tracking all the way. To my horror it comes up 10 yards short and lands in a bunker. I can't figure out whats happening and look down only to notice I had mistakenly grabbed my PW. Blast out but could not make the putt to save par. I par the last hole to shoot a hollow 36. I can not believe I was that stupid. Without a doubt, that is the last time I will have the wrong club in my hands. LESSON LEARNED.

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Well look at the bright side. At least you know your club selection was the right one, although you ended up taking the wrong club out of the bag.
My Implements of Destruction (carried in a Hoofer Lite bag):

DRIVER: Big Bertha Diablo 10 degree draw, Aldila regular flex
FAIRWAY WOODS: G2 14 degree 3 wood & 17 degree 5 wood
IRONS: S59 3-PWWEDGES: M/B 54, 58, & 60 degree PUTTER: I Series Anser 4 (or G5i Anser, Anser 2F, or original...

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So today me and my buddy decide to back up and play our usual course from the tips. The day is going along pretty good and I come to hole 17 and I am -1 on the back nine. This hole is a nerve wracking drive with water guarding short and right and a bunker guarding left. I hit a good drive to the fairway and I am 139 out. My PW is usually 130-135 but there is a good wind in my face so I am debating about a strong PW or choked down 9 iron. I decide to hit the knockdown 9 and hit a great shot that is tracking all the way. To my horror it comes up 10 yards short and lands in a bunker. I can't figure out whats happening and look down only to notice I had mistakenly grabbed my PW. Blast out but could not make the putt to save par. I par the last hole to shoot a hollow 36. I can not believe I was that stupid. Without a doubt, that is the last time I will have the wrong club in my hands. LESSON LEARNED.

I've done that. I have a Mizuno Pro 3 wedge set (got the 52 bent to 50.5 and replaced my PW) and have grabbed the wrong one by mistake when forced to take a powercart (the clubs get kind of tossed about - haven't done it with my new 14-slot carry bag).

They're marked 1, 2, and 3 on the sole, but in Roman numerals . . . try differentiating between a worn I, II, and III when you're in a hurry.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


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Because of glare on the clubs one time I couldn't differentiate 9 and 6 from a quick glance (really stupid) and had the most confused look on my face I'm sure when I watched my supposed 9-iron fly past the green 150 out and into the treeline 20 yards beyond it. "Wow I must have really hit the sweet spot on that one!"

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2 different times now I've gone to the range, decided to work on 6 iron. Get to swinging and think gee if feels good today no slice but the distance sucks. Go back to the bag to work on something else and noticed I had grabbed the 9.


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The first time my buddy invited me to play at his snooty country club I was a little nervous about playing well. It turned out to be no big deal - I played OK (better than him anyway) and had a great drive on 9, a par 4, leaving me 140 to the flag. That's a little long for my 9 iron so I figured I had better blast it. I really wanted to hit the green, as the dining room windows overlook the 9th green and there was a full lunch crowd of stuffy old members watching. I take a huge cut at the ball and immediately realize something is very wrong. The ball flies over the green and lands on the roof, rattling around the metal aircon units and vents/ducts and makes one hell of an amazing racket. Everyone inside is staring at me, forks down. The damned ball sounds like it's not going to stop pinballing around up there. I look at my club....oops....6 iron.

Yeah, I don't make that mistake anymore.

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4H: Nickent 4DX
5H: Adams A3
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I've shot 72 twice-first time was last September. 18 is a sharp dogleg left par 4 with trees on both sides, and I was nervous 'cause it was my best round ever, I was even par at that point. Hit my drive nice and high and it landed and stopped right in the middle of the fairway. I was 145-150 to a back left pin and debating between an 8 or 9 iron. Decided to go with 9 as I was amped up and would rather be short and on the green than forced to hit a short-sided chip/pitch. I hit it long and left and as I put the club in the bag realized I had hit the 8 iron. I was angry with myself, and dropped another ball and hit the 9 iron to see what would have happened-and it dropped 4 feet from the cup. I hit a decent chip with my original ball and two-putted for bogey. Needless to say, I knocked in the other ball without a second thought. So what could have been a 1 under par 70 was instead a 1 over 72. Golf...

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Because of glare on the clubs one time I couldn't differentiate 9 and 6 from a quick glance (really stupid) and had the most confused look on my face I'm sure when I watched my supposed 9-iron fly past the green 150 out and into the treeline 20 yards beyond it. "Wow I must have really hit the sweet spot on that one!"

The loft difference at address never became apparent?

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The loft difference at address never became apparent?

I was just thinking I would notice that too.


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I was just thinking I would notice that too.

Not if you were busy debating which had gotten longer: your arms or your 9-iron was longer.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


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A few times I have managed to grab my 5 wood instead of my 3 wood. I have also had 8 or 9 iron or whatever being considered for a shot, and grabbed the wrong one. It never been a big deal though.
Driver R7 Superquad NV 55 shaft or Bridgestone J33 460 NV 75 shaft
3 and 5 Wood X
Hybrid original Fli Hi 21* or FT 22*
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A few times I have managed to grab my 5 wood instead of my 3 wood. I have also had 8 or 9 iron or whatever being considered for a shot, and grabbed the wrong one. It never been a big deal though.

I do this all the time lately, it seems from the bottom I can't tell them apart. Fortunately there's no way I'd get through a swing with the wrong one, as they're completely different from the top.

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T-Zoid Forged 15° 3W, MX-23 4-PW
Harmonized 52° GW, Tom Watson 56° SW, X-Forged Vintage 60° LW
White Hot XG #1 Putter, 33"


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I have done the 6/9i thing before : (
When you have several swing thoughts in your head, it can happen. This has always been at the driving range though. I have never grabbed the wrong club during a round...well...I haven't grabbed a club that isn't the one I intended to grab haha.

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I've done the 6/9 iron mix up a few times, but I always notice it at address.

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Fairway Wood: 4DX 3-Wood
Hybrids: 5DX 3, 4
Irons: 4DX Pro 5-PW
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I've done the 6/9 iron mix up a few times, but I always notice it at address.

Fortunately I have never confused the 6 and 9.

I have, however, made a recurring mental mistake of confusing the yardage, such as playing to a middle of the green yardage when the pin is actuallty in the back 20 yards further.

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Fortunately I have never confused the 6 and 9.

Ugh. I hit a drive into the woods on the first hole a month or so back, then hit a nice chip out right at the white fairway marker so I'd know the yardage. Wound up a yard or two from it, so I drew the club, confident I'd have a shot to save par after planting one on the green. I hit it squarely and watched with delight as it took off straight for the green. My delight turned to horror as the ball stopped rising and fell to the ground about 40 yards short of the green. That's when I remembered: the white markers are 150 yards, not 100 yards. @#!#$#%@!

In the bag:
FT-iQ 10° driver, FT 21° neutral 3H
T-Zoid Forged 15° 3W, MX-23 4-PW
Harmonized 52° GW, Tom Watson 56° SW, X-Forged Vintage 60° LW
White Hot XG #1 Putter, 33"


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My buddies wife just got a new set of Nike Slingshot irons. 3 different times she's hit her 5-iron thinking it was her Sand wedge. To be honest, the "5" and the "S" do look very similar, but you would think you'd notice the difference in loft/shaft length. Funny thing is, she is a good player, not some newbie chick out there shooting 120++. So the running joke in our 4-some is: Was that your 5-wedge?

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Ugh. I hit a drive into the woods on the first hole a month or so back, then hit a nice chip out right at the white fairway marker so I'd know the yardage. Wound up a yard or two from it, so I drew the club, confident I'd have a shot to save par after planting one on the green. I hit it squarely and watched with delight as it took off straight for the green. My delight turned to horror as the ball stopped rising and fell to the ground about 40 yards short of the green. That's when I remembered: the white markers are 150 yards, not 100 yards. @#!#$#%@!

Haha! I've done that one too. I played amost an entire round thinking that the red marker was 50 and the white was 100. This was when I first started playing and I was by myself so there wasn't anyone to correct me. I just kept thinking "Man, my short irons are WEAK!"

Driver: 4DX SuperMag 10.5º
Fairway Wood: 4DX 3-Wood
Hybrids: 5DX 3, 4
Irons: 4DX Pro 5-PW
Wedges: Arc 52º, 54º, VR 58ºPutter(s): SeeMore FGP OriginalBag: Org.14 Xtreme


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