My Swing (2bGood)

[jamo]

I think I have it...

Mmmm....not quite. What you pointed out is surely an issue, and definitely something to fix, but not quite what we were talking about. Here is a picture that demonstrates more what we were talking about

: Now, Ernie is not the best example of it, but I used him anyway. A few times iacas has used a picture of Rickie Fowler to illustrate the way you want to fee when you change this. Rickie makes his hands go way to the left (deep) and has the club go way to the right (shallow), which is the way you want to feel, because you are doing the opposite. That's why Rickie is on the right.

[motteler621]

yea Ive seen Rickies swing explained a little. I know on TV jack N. said that he has some swing flaws that he will have to fix to really be succesful. This was during Jacks tournament that Rickie almost won. Not sure which flaw Jack was talking about but his clubhead is one of them. I saw a analysis of his swing and they showed him rolling his right wrist over right after impact to compensate for what he does.

[motteler621]

heres actually a video analysis of rickie compared to tiger.

[2bGood]

Mmmm....not quite. What you pointed out is surely an issue, and definitely something to fix, but not quite what we were talking about. Here is a picture that demonstrates more what we were talking about

Thanks the pictures help allot.

[alo1984]

To be honest, I'm not so sure Fowler's swing is what you want to be trying to reproduce. He has an unbelievable ability to stretch and turn his body which is what makes his swing work. His takeaway really not fundementally sound. Also, watch a video of Fowler on the downswing or through impact. That is a move that I am certain 95% of amateurs simply can't reproduce. It's the move he uses to make up for his extremely shallow club head. If you can make a turn like his, and then create that kind of lag then it COULD work for you. Having watched your swing, a more natural swing would be something like Ernie Els' swing. First, it's a proven long term solid swing. He's been repeating it with success for years. Use Hogan and Ernie to iron our your swing, not Fowler.

[jamo]

To be honest, I'm not so sure Fowler's swing is what you want to be trying to reproduce. He has an unbelievable ability to stretch and turn his body which is what makes his swing work. His takeaway really not fundementally sound. Also, watch a video of Fowler on the downswing or through impact. That is a move that I am certain 95% of amateurs simply can't reproduce. It's the move he uses to make up for his extremely shallow club head. If you can make a turn like his, and then create that kind of lag then it COULD work for you. Having watched your swing, a more natural swing would be something like Ernie Els' swing. First, it's a proven long term solid swing. He's been repeating it with success for years. Use Hogan and Ernie to iron our your swing, not Fowler.

I never said you want to replicate Fowler's entire swing, or even his swing at all. All I gave him was that one frame in Fowler's swing. I should be looking to (more or less) replicate Ernie's position, but to do that it might take 2BGood feeling like he is at Fowler's position. He might have to feel like he is overdoing it to just be doing it well.

[2bGood]

Alo1984 and Jamo,

thanks both, did get the concept that a little correction can feel like allot - as in feel like fowler to look like ernie.

Given my age and size - fowler swing is not something I would try (;

[iacas]

I never said you want to replicate Fowler's entire swing, or even his swing at all. All I gave him was that one frame in Fowler's swing.

http://thesandtrap.com/forum/entries...amatic-Changes

[motteler621]

I never said you want to replicate Fowler's entire swing, or even his swing at all. All I gave him was that one frame in Fowler's swing. I should be looking to (more or less) replicate Ernie's position, but to do that it might take 2BGood feeling like he is at Fowler's position. He might have to feel like he is overdoing it to just be doing it well.

yea thats true, thats why its good to video tape yourself making those changes.

[alo1984]

I never said you want to replicate Fowler's entire swing, or even his swing at all. All I gave him was that one frame in Fowler's swing. I should be looking to (more or less) replicate Ernie's position, but to do that it might take 2BGood feeling like he is at Fowler's position. He might have to feel like he is overdoing it to just be doing it well.

Jamo, I'm sorry if I offended you. I was just worried he may try to replicate Fowler a little too much. I know if I tried that take away I'd have trouble getting into position at impact, that's all. It was certainly useful to compare the three of them side by side though.

[Shanks A Million]

Jamo, I'm sorry if I offended you. I was just worried he may try to replicate Fowler a little too much. I know if I tried that take away I'd have trouble getting into position at impact, that's all. It was certainly useful to compare the three of them side by side though.

Fowler's swing is great, and if you gave me the option of having deep hands with extremely shallow club, or club coming inside with shallow hands, I'd take the deep hands every time. There's not a lot wrong with Rickie's swing, it may be extreme, but many great players have swung that way, Trevino, Furyk, and so on.