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good idea for a thread

I do a variation of that, except that I never usually putt out my putts, I have a whole separate putting practice regimin and I'm fine with that...

I'll take 3-5 balls depending on the size of the practice green... I also use my 54, 8I, and 6I pretty much 95% of the time when chipping.

1) hit one ball with each club to the same flag, this really helps develop the feel, especially in your hands

2) using the same club hit a ball to each of the different flags on the green, repeat with your other chipping clubs.

I seldom hit multiple balls to the same hole, I find it very repetative, and it really only helps you with that exact shot, lie, distance, roll... etc.

putting... I have 5 drills that should drop most people 3-4 strokes, but that's for a whole different thread.

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Anything that makes it easier with the lobwedge is worthy of giving a shot. Care to outline the specific technique when using the 8iron ?

Open your stance so you are aiming well left.

Have the ball positioned about at your left heel/toes Open the face so it is nearly horizontal Have the feeling of swinging along your feet line with a long but smooth swing. You are creating your own bounce on this shot. What I like most about this drill is it teaches you not to be too steep on your bunker shots so you take shallower divots in the sand. If you do this correctly, you can hit high bunker shots and even get backspin. Do this for 20-30 minutes and your lob wedge will be much easier, and you will probably find you don't have to open the lob wedge face near as much as you think to hit a high shot.

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why no putting from the fringe. if you are looking to get up and down your best bet is putting

I just dont practice it in this particular drill

I have another drill where i practice putting from the fringe, bumped up against the first cut and steep downhill lie's into the green and for me, I would rather bump and run or chip it close, than putt it
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Great stuff! Ill do some bunkerpractice for a change tomorrow and try out this technique.

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Irons : X20 tour 3-p Project X 5.0
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I practice a lot in my backyard. I have a nice size yard with some bushes and trees I aim at. I can't putt but at least I can get a good feeling for distance and accuracy.

Backyard can be a good place to practice the inside-30-yard pitches, and also chip shots. I trim an oval extra-short "green" at one end of the yard, and a rectangular "tee" area at the other end. Not as good as a real green, but it can help if you get the shot to land where you want it to.

Also, 20 minutes of practice twice a week without having to leave home starts to help out. And, as others have mentioned the partial swing for wedges and chips is a great way to get feel for good contact, transfer it to full shots.

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I like to bump/run with 5iron if its an uphill shot from right off the green.i'll use putter if its downhill and on/near the fringe.

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That's the most annoying part of it. In all my hours across various practice greens this summer, very seldom has there been anybody else there. When somebody else shows up, they're there for the 5 minutes before their tee time and no longer. There is no way that I'd be bothering anybody on these massive practice greens by hitting a few chips. My guess is that these policies are being put into place as a result of a few bad seeds either tearing things up and/or bladeing balls across the greens. Frustrating to say the very least.

the problem is pitchmarks.

They don't want the greens ruined by hundreds of them. is there no other practice area for pitching/chipping? we've got 1 for chipping, one for putting

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My biggest problem getting practice with chipping is all these practice areas with the "no chipping" signs. Every time I ignore them and practice chipping anyway, somebody from the club comes out and hassles me about it. Grr. I need to find a better place to practice!

Where I go to practice they have 6 different chipping/pitching greens... sign reads "no chips over 50 yards" so I take full advantage and spend an hour each session from 50 yards and in, then pick up my bucket of balls and move to the firing line for about 1/2 hour. After I'm finished with the bucket from the line I head to one of 4 putting greens and spend another 15 minutes putting. I love this place.

Needless to say, my chipping/pitching/up-and-downs have really improved this season... and I'm well on my way to breaking 80 because of this.

Even par through 9 is my best.  I don't even want to think about what was my worst.


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In Arizona the ground is hard and dry - the Texas wedge works for me even 25 yards off the green. Over 90 percent of my long putts land on the green rather than falling short or shooting completely over. I have hit the flag and/or gone in many times. May not be pretty but I can't chip worth a darn.

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This is a very good drill. I do the same thing after a range session but my goals aren't as lofty as yours. As an 11 handicap who gets up and down less than 30% of the time, I measure success if I get up and down 40% (2/5 instead of 4/5). I chip to different holes on the green and then putt out.

My short game is steadily improving.

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Does something similar myself. I take out 3 pin positions with varying distance on the chipping green, then chip 2 balls to each of them( switching pin on each shot). Then i go putt out. I pretend the par for my little'ol course is 12 so i have some pressure.

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Rescue : Halo 2i Regular
Irons : X20 tour 3-p Project X 5.0
Wedges : Vokey 52, XFT 56, 60Putter : VP 109


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I actually spent about 20 minutes doing this today before my round. My short game was as good as it has been in a long time.

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3 and 5 Wood: Nike Dymo2 SQ
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I like to use the Harvey Penick method. I take just a single ball, chip and putt it into the hole before going on to the second chip. It better simulates what you face on the course. I sometimes even play an 18 hole "round" keeping score. Par is 36, and the goal is to score under par.

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