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I've seen worse. Not many, but a few.

His site isn't very great either. I can't make it past the first page.

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Ha. He looks like Bob Vokey's far stupider cousin.

Tell Sergio or Colin Montgomerie not to slide their hips back in the backswing. Good luck.

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I've seen worse. Not many, but a few.

Yeah, I don't claim to be all knowing when it comes to the swing, but good Lord, this guy is clueless. Must be of the mindset that the worst his students play, the more money he makes on repeat visits.

Tell Sergio or Colin Montgomerie not to slide their hips back in the backswing. Good luck.

Backswing or downswing?


What a moron. I'd like to see him play on the course. Wonder why he doesn't actually hit a ball in the video...

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Backswing or downswing?

Phil was talking about their backswings. He and I've had this conversation in PMs before.

Or, if you want to be extreme about it, Jason Zuback. That guy's hips move like crazy. Which makes sense - if you want the most power you go from extension to flexion and back to extension. Every pro goes forward on the downswing (some more than others). A few also slide their hips back a bit on the backswing - Sergio and Monty being chief among the examples I prefer to use too.

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That's all I have to say.

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As soon as I read the title of the video "No Slide on the Downswing", I knew it would push the hot button of every S&T;'er. Then, when he said to put your weight over the BACK FOOT on the backswing, it was all over. The videos are on e-How, for God's sake. Their target audience is not the avid golfer, it is for beginners. Like the Golf for Dummies books.

I don't think it qualifies as the worst video ever. Not the best, certainly, but not the worst. Certainly not worthy of being called a moron or Bob Vokey's stupid cousin. Hey, McGlenno, post your real photo on here, so we can make childish comments about what you look like, too.

is he really a pro?

seems hard to become a pro if you don't move at all during the swing.

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is he really a pro?

Well, technically all you have to do to be a pro is declare yourself to be one, so...

As soon as I read the title of the video "No Slide on the Downswing", I knew it would push the hot button of every S&T;'er.

You have to realize that S&T; came about from a study of the differences between the most expert golfers and the average golfers. The best golfers get their weight well forward coming into impact, the worst do not. How? By pushing their hips forward (they certainly don't do it by leaning their heads forward!). S&T; is nothing more than a classification of the most common components found in the best golfers and what those things do or change within a swing to affect the ball flight.

In other words, the best players push their hips forward, whether they're "S&T;" or not.
Hey, McGlenno, post your real photo on here, so we can make childish comments about what you look like, too.

Phil knows he's not a looker. Especially in his tight white shorts. And if you're not sure what I'm talking about, well... sorry.

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As soon as I read the title of the video "No Slide on the Downswing"

I am a S&Ter; but i knew sliding the hips before i switched by studying Hogan. I found S&T; made it easier for me to slide and that's why I switch (ooh and the whole hitting 80% of my shots fat).


Just another guy who thinks their way is the right way. I could both turn and bump the hip. personally I like bumping,or sliding bettter. Some may like turning better.

What the guy does not realize is that with right bumping action of the hip, it can also produce an pretty ideal turning motion of the shoulder and set you arms and hands in good position to hit the ball. The club does not care if you turn or slide.

You have to realize that S&T; came about from a study of the differences between the most expert golfers and the average golfers. The best golfers get their weight well forward coming into impact, the worst do not. How? By pushing their hips forward (they certainly don't do it by leaning their heads forward!). S&T; is nothing more than a classification of the most common components found in the best golfers and what those things do or change within a swing to affect the ball flight.

Understood. I agree with all that. What gets me (and this has been discussed before) is the insulting comments that immediately get posted regarding someone's mental capacity or physical appearance. It just doesn't add anything, the posters just comes off as immature.


Aren't there videos out there by Tom Watson and Sean O' Hair advocating the same thing? Not that I agree, because you do need to slide the hips, just wanted to point out there are pros who say the same thing.

Yeah that is just stupid. How are you going to hit down on the ball swinging like that? The motion foward is what creates what I call the dynamic hitting position (I just made that up). I thought the position he was saying not to be in reminded me of alot of good players at impact where there head is back hips driving foward and jumping at the same time hitting the snot out of the ball.

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Aren't there videos out there by Tom Watson and Sean O' Hair advocating the same thing? Not that I agree, because you do need to slide the hips, just wanted to point out there are pros who

Could be wrong, but I don't think I've seen anything from either of them advocating this same thing.


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