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You can work the hips and legs all you want but if the hands aren't working properly you'll just be strong but wild and still may not gain speed. You can do lag drills until your hands bleed but if your footwork is wrong or your plane is off you'll hate the game for all the balls you lose. There are no easy answers in the swing....period.

Absolutely agree! I just recently had some help with getting my hands in the right position at the top of my swing and I'm hitting shots much more accurately than before and picked up 30 yards with my driver. My swing also feels pretty much effortless now compared to how it used to be. If your hands (meaning shoulder turn, arms and hands) are in the right position at the top of your back swing it is so much easier to drive through with a powerful and accurate down swing. Power means nothing if you can't hit it accurately. So lessons are very important to make sure everything is in the right position.

If I don't feel like 95% of the torque and power is coming from my lower body then I'm doing something wrong as well. Usually I get my weight outside of my back foot. When your weight gets outside of your stance like that its impossible to get the power from your lower body and it has a drastic effect on my distance.

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Create the lag through your backswing so that once you are at the top of your backswing you have created as much as you can. From there DO NOT let it go.

That is the problem many have, they swing the club instead of the arms. Everyone can create lag at the top of the backswing, no problem. Maintaining it is a whole other animal. You need both the speed and mindset to get it done. If the feeling is to swing the club, many will start swinging the club and throwing away the lag. For me, I'm looking for a feeling that I'm not swinging the club, but rather the arms. I can do it well on a practice swing, but once there is a ball between my leg, something in my head tells my hands to flip.

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That is the problem many have, they swing the club instead of the arms. Everyone can create lag at the top of the backswing, no problem. Maintaining it is a whole other animal. You need both the speed and mindset to get it done. If the feeling is to swing the club, many will start swinging the club and throwing away the lag. For me, I'm looking for a feeling that I'm not swinging the club, but rather the arms. I can do it well on a practice swing, but once there is a ball between my leg, something in my head tells my hands to flip.

Stop swinging at the ball. Swing at your target and let the ball get in the way.


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Average amateurs swing around 90 Mph.... That should get them around 210-230 yards.
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Well I guess my 84 mph is not to far off then. I average about 175-200. I would be happy in the 225-250 range eventually. I am just gonna keep at it until I get there. I know my awful awful awful slice is making my shots seem much shorter also. Funny thing is that I dont slice with any of my irons. Only my driver, hybrid and woods.

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[QUOTE=Beady;515686]Lag is the easiest way to do it, but once you create it I see alot of people let it go to waste.
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My instructor pointed this out, said I was wasting alot of it because I start downswing with arms, not lower body. Told me to focus on uncoiling from the lower body up, but I've been having a tough time getting the timing right when I do it.

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[QUOTE=newtogolf;516196][QUOTE=Beady;515686]Lag is the easiest way to do it, but once you create it I see alot of people let it go to waste.

My instructor pointed this out, said I was wasting alot of it because I start downswing with arms, not lower body. Told me to focus on uncoiling from the lower body up, but I've been having a tough time getting the timing right when I do it.

I dont think about letting it go. I set the lag and go through my swing, lower body, arms club etc. I find that as I swing the lag releases down at the ball. When I think about releasing the lag, I cast it down at the ball and hit it fat everytime. Build the lag and then just let it happen.


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[QUOTE=Beady;516203][QUOTE=newtogolf;516196]

Lag is the easiest way to do it, but once you create it I see alot of people let it go to waste.

What do you mean by lag?

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[QUOTE=jallen100;516248][QUOTE=Beady;516203]

What do you mean by lag?

Skip ahead to around 20 seconds in. It's retained wrist angle on the downswing.

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Strength is not an issue for me. I work out 4 days a week so I feel I have a pretty good foundation.

Average amateur drives it about 200-210 yds. I figure average swing speed for an amateur is in the high 80's.


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I should add too though that lag should not be confused with a side to side bending of the wrist, because that will completely destroy your swing.

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