Effortless Swing Produce Greater Distance

[ks8829]

I tried a new set up for my swing today and found that I was able to create more club head speed without much effort and the swing felt more natural.

I lower my rear shoulder and bent my rear elbow into my body and this set up created longer drivers, a great fairway shot and one of my best 6 irons into a green today.

I hit a few shot fat and had a draw hook shot with a fairway wood on the last hole, so I need to practice the set up at the range a bit to work things out, otherwise I am pretty excited and can't wait to hit some balls and play again.

[CPT]

You didn't create more club head speed. It can't happen no matter how you've changed the set up.

The good news is, you have hit the balls more solidly with the less-effort or smoother swing ------ which of course, would bring longer drives and crisper iron shots. Most of the time, that will also make you feel like you have more speed, which isn't the case.

You had a good point, though. Slower rhythm and smoother swing will do more good than harms for us amateurs out there. Great post.

[Easy]

  ks8829 said:

I tried a new set up for my swing today and found that I was able to create more club head speed without much effort and the swing felt more natural.

This is what Ben Hogan does? I've been trying to do this too.

[JWL1957]

Ive been in a major slump for a while. I did not realize that I was going after the ball too hard and fast. This was causing me to move all over the place during the swing causing my inconsistency. I would score shoot well one day and horrible the next.

Of all people to point this out was my friends wife who was watching us hit balls. She doesnt even play the game. She said I wasnt swinging "easy peasy" like every time she saw me before.

CLICK!!!

[chilly]

I've been on a pretty good run with irons lately, and attribute it to this exactly, all I think of is "full coil" and then a smooth transition. I think it's a combo of hitting it more squarely, and getting more lag in the swing...distance is definitely better.

Now, why I can't do this with any woods, I don't know.

[ks8829]

I feel that my swing was not efficient and the new swing bring out the full potential of my golf swing. talk is cheap, got to try it on the course to see if I can duplicate it during a round and how it helps my overall game.

What I immediately noticed on the course that I play often is longer distances on drives and fairway wood where I usually land but I was 30 yards pass that distance.

[sean_miller]

  Easy said:

This is what Ben Hogan does? I've been trying to do this too.

You do know that Ben Hogan passed away, right? Once you've accepted that we can move on to the guy pictured in your avatar.

[$2 Nassau]

  CPT said:

You didn't create more club head speed. It can't happen no matter how you've changed the set up.

??? You can't create more clubhead speed? so everyone is born with one clubhead speed and that's it? It seems like if you are changing your set up for the better, which produces a better swing, you could certainly generate more speed.

[plugged]

  None said:

You didn't create more club head speed. It can't happen no matter how you've changed the set up.

If this allows him to bring the clubhead back further and optimize the release point, I would say that it most certainly does increase swing speed.

[mdl]

  CPT said:

You didn't create more club head speed. It can't happen no matter how you've changed the set up.

So a beginning golfer with a pathetically disgusting swing has the same club head speed as he will after years of hard work perfecting his swing? Going from 150 yard best drive distance to 300 yard best drive distance is 100% "crispness". That's just silly...

So you're saying that when you want to hit your 58˚ 40 yards you just try to hit it less crisp, not with less club head speed? Or when you're in between clubs and long is the bad miss and you really try to smash the shorter club and do in fact get it half a club longer than normal to pin high, that's because whipping the club head through to try to hit it further didn't in fact create more club head speed, it just increased crispness? Genius...

[ks8829]

I believe the effortless club head speed comes the breaking of the wrist, lag what ever you want to call it. I can hear the difference in the sound the driver shot make with the new swing, it sound louder and more distinct then before.

I am sneaking out to play tomorrow early morning, 6:30 am.

[sean_miller]

  ks8829 said:

I believe the effortless club head speed comes the breaking of the wrist, lag what ever you want to call it. I can hear the difference in the sound the driver shot make with the new swing, it sound louder and more distinct then before.

Don't forget your socks!!

[CPT]

  $2 Nassau said:

??? You can't create more clubhead speed? so everyone is born with one clubhead speed and that's it? It seems like if you are changing your set up for the better, which produces a better swing, you could certainly generate more speed.

I should have been a bit clearer when I said that.

Changes in set up can certainly improve results of your shots, but I doubted that it will increase the swing speed in general. Of course, there are ways to increase your clubhead or swing speed (such as improve your core strength and so on..).

[mrmiller8]

Lets not forget that the golf swing is mechanical method that has been studied for years and years. And changing on little thing in a swing path can "kind of" increase club speed. What most ametuers do and this results in a slower clubhead speed at impact (which is the key word in all of this) is come hard from the top (creating the highest club head spread at the beginning of downswing). A smoother controlled swing generally results in the the club head speed topping out at the impact point (which is ideal for more distance). So techincally CPT is right, one change isnt probably going to change your clubhead speed but its where your clubhead reaches its highest speed is what's important.

[CPT]

  mrmiller8 said:

Lets not forget that the golf swing is mechanical method that has been studied for years and years. And changing on little thing in a swing path can "kind of" increase club speed. What most ametuers do and this results in a slower clubhead speed

What I tried to say was club head (or swing) speed is something unique to each individual, as all of you knew. It mainly depends on golfers' flexibility and core strength. Sure, changes in set up can support many things in your swing, but I don't think it'll effect your swing speed that much. There are other ways that can be done to improve the speed, but to my knowledge, it takes some time to be able to achieve that.

[hero12]

  CPT said:

I should have been a bit clearer when I said that.

What do you do when you feel you need a couple extra yards off the tee on a certain hole? I would assume most people start with a small change in their setup. This can be widening your stance for more stability or changing ball position etc.

[mrmiller8]

  CPT said:

What I tried to say was club head (or swing) speed is something unique to each individual, as all of you knew. It mainly depends on golfers' flexibility and core strength. Sure, changes in set up can support many things in your swing, but I don't think it'll effect your swing speed that much. There are other ways that can be done to improve the speed, but to my knowledge, it takes some time to be able to achieve that.

I agree that someone is not an overly strong person is not going to be able to bomb it 290 yards just by changing their swing. But what I am saying is that a 15-20 yard gain in distance could be a result in a swing mechanic that generates a little more clubhead speed. (or a setup that allows a player to do something different with the body such as clearing the hips earlier and not blocking and this allows him to acheive his maximum clubhead speed at impact, just as an example) Regardless any change in the setup/swing/club/shaft could help an individual achieve a great clubhead speed but none of these changes are going to allow a guy to gain 40 yards in the blink of an eye.

[Zeph]

  CPT said:

What I tried to say was club head (or swing) speed is something unique to each individual, as all of you knew. It mainly depends on golfers' flexibility and core strength. Sure, changes in set up can support many things in your swing, but I don't think it'll effect your swing speed that much. There are other ways that can be done to improve the speed, but to my knowledge, it takes some time to be able to achieve that.

You can improve the club head a lot without having to hit the gym. Releasing the accumulators faster, keeping the lag and flying wedge longer. Flexibility and bulking up can give you some extra distance, but the majority of it comes from swinging the club fundamentally well. Tiger has lifted a lot of weights since 1997, but he still don't drive the ball any farther. The equipment has improved, and we'll have to assume he still hits the ball in the sweet spot. His swing speed must remain the same, since he's not longer than he used to be.