Putting stats poll ....

[Gerald]

OK, math is fun !

Hmmmm 49% at your handicap is pretty good, you should really work on getting more GIR !!!

[zeg]

Originally Posted by Gerald

OK, math is fun !

Hmmmm 49% at your handicap is pretty good, you should really work on getting more GIR !!!

You're absolutely right there.  Some of this is probably the lack of GIR leading to comparatively shorter first putts, but I've always been a naturally pretty good putter, but the same cannot be said of my full swing... It's almost 100% about making solid contact every time, most of the strokes in my handicap come from duffs and bad chip/pitches.  Oh well, I'm working on it.

[jcard71]

Originally Posted by iacas

I can aim my putter better than them, but besides that, I never said I was better than them at anything. Probably a better software developer, though, if asked...

Yep, I was a 3 index four years ago. I got some good information, some good help, and now I'm below scratch and a pro, making a good living helping people play better golf, both in person and here. You, you're still some guy who makes rude comments (which were removed from your post). Look around - a few forum members were helped just last week in San Antonio and Las Vegas.

And if you must know, I already make way, way above 50% of my putts "inside 10 feet." Since I've been keeping track of stats, I'm 1204 of 1614. That's almost exactly 75%.

Heck, here's a stat for you: I make more than 50% of all of my putts. Think about it...

So you're a PRO... A PGA Pro too! Very impressive, given that some of the local PROS i know got their card by shooting a couple rounds of 78.   Please, you're still a hack.  You always delete my posts because the truth must hurt.  It's obvious by all the pissing matches you get into with other members on this forum.

[jcard71]

Originally Posted by zeg

Fun with math!  If you average fewer than 2 putts per hole, this statement is true for you, too! :-)  (Maybe it's kind of an obvious identity, but I hadn't thought about it in those terms.)  I average 36.93 putts per 18 holes, so I make 18 / 36.93 on average, or just shy of 49%.  I should just flip a coin!

While matching stats with the top couple dozen pros in anything is astounding, my gut feeling is that this is an area where a non-pro (or, in Erik's case, a non-tour pro) could plausibly be competitive.  It's very different from the endless 15-handicappers with 300 yard average drives.  Putting doesn't require the ungodly hand-eye coordination, whole-body muscle control, timing, etc, that it takes to hit every full shot as near-perfect as those guys do it.  Not to say it's easy, but a lot of the athletic requirements are relaxed so I think someone who's simply got a very good eye for putting and puts in a lot of time could excel in this area without being tour caliber otherwise.  Factor in that the pros are seeing a wider variety of greens than someone who doesn't travel to a new course every week, their pin placements are consistently chosen to be downright evil, and the greens are tuned to be faster than what most of us see, and the 10 foot putts for the pros are generally harder than the 10 footers for the rest of us.  In that sense, it's not apples to apples, so the stats could be equal even if the skills aren't.

Anyway, the point is, at 10-foot putts, I think it's unlikey but not absurd that a scratch or slightly better handicapper who spends a lot of time working on putting could be competitive with the big guys in terms of percentages.  Many of the best putters in the world are on tour, but I'd wager a fair sum that there is a fair number of better putters who aren't.  Just like the long drive champs are pretty much a separate group from PGA Tour members, the very best in one area are specialists who can't necessarily compete overall.

And even if you disagree, being a jerk about it is just unnecessary.

Maybe as a 27 handicap you should work with Erik...he has all the answers and putts better than the "average" tour pro.  What a laugh.

[zeg]

Originally Posted by jcard71

Maybe as a 27 handicap you should work with Erik...he has all the answers and putts better than the "average" tour pro.  What a laugh.

Don't you have anything better to do with your life?

[phillyk]

Originally Posted by jcard71

So you're a PRO... A PGA Pro too! Very impressive, given that some of the local PROS i know got their card by shooting a couple rounds of 78.   Please, you're still a hack.  You always delete my posts because the truth must hurt.  It's obvious by all the pissing matches you get into with other members on this forum.

You don't even know the guy.  Plus, there are so many types of PGA Pros that the pros you know are probably going towards a different approach in the Pro program than iacas.  Maybe you should learn more aspects of golf before making ridiculous posts.

[iacas]

Originally Posted by jcard71

So you're a PRO... A PGA Pro too! Very impressive, given that some of the local PROS i know got their card by shooting a couple rounds of 78.   Please, you're still a hack.  You always delete my posts because the truth must hurt.  It's obvious by all the pissing matches you get into with other members on this forum.

If I "always" delete your posts, how do you have any posts on the forum at all?

Your insults mean nothing. I'm pretty secure in what I do, and how I do it. Good effort, though. I can see how you thought it was worth your time.