Do you "slide", "sway" or "lunge" at the ball on the down swing?

[CalBoomer]

I don't slide, sway, or swing. I try to concentrate on just rotating my torso back down. Whatever else happens, happens.

[Tom]

hey zeph... you know this... your hands are back. you'd benefit GREATLY by getting them ahead. try the drill i write about below the video... look at the following video of me using the drill. it will help you immeasurably.

take an alignment rod. grind one end down into a sharp point. stick the sharp end into the hole on the grip end of your club.

drill 1. begin CHIPPING the club as you would normally with the rod sticking out at least two - three feet. KEY: do not let the stick jab you in the side.

drill 2. begin swinging the club as you would normally with the rod sticking out at one foot. KEY: do not let the stick jab you in the side.

[saevel25]

In those two images, i actually think your better in the first set up. The reason is the gap in your legs. Also your club is in a better position, in the 2nd image, it looks like your about to flip at the ball.

[iacas]

Tom, you've been a bit unclear here. What body parts should and shouldn't move forward on the downswing?

I'm going to post two pictures I hope you'll consider.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by saevel25

In those two images, i actually think your better in the first set up. The reason is the gap in your legs. Also your club is in a better position, in the 2nd image, it looks like your about to flip at the ball.

Was that comment @ Zeph or the OP? If it was to Zeph - I agree!

[Tom]

Originally Posted by TitleistWI

Im working on learning to slide my hips foreward.  Right now I have a tendency to hang back on my right side and it causes me to hit a push.

hi there titleistwi,

i just had the chance to video tape a drill (noodle drill) you can use to get your hips to slide forward, whilst keeping your head back. if you use the pole drill separately you'll end up with a good feel for how to develop a good repeatable swing.

the noodle drill. take a microphone stand. take a swimming noodle. fix the noodle onto the mic stand and place it like i do in the video. this is a barrier that your brain will not let your head cross. the result is your brain says "hey, let's get our hips to slide forward, whilst our head stays back." voila...

in the video there are two RED lines and one YELLOW line i'd like you to pay attention to:

the line near my head. this is the line that will show that my head will not move toward the target.

the line on the left of my hips. this is the line that will show how much my hips will move toward the target.

the yellow line in the middle. this is the line representing the "ball line." this is the critical element that when your hands are here, and just past, the shaft should be leaning forward.

[Zeph]

Originally Posted by Tom

i just had the chance to video tape a drill (noodle drill) you can use to get your hips to slide forward, whilst keeping your head back. if you use the pole drill separately you'll end up with a good feel for how to develop a good repeatable swing.

the noodle drill. take a microphone stand. take a swimming noodle. fix the noodle onto the mic stand and place it like i do in the video. this is a barrier that your brain will not let your head cross. the result is your brain says "hey, let's get our hips to slide forward, whilst our head stays back." voila...

That's better than your previous drill. Here's a video made by Dave from Golf Evolution on head movement. GE teach the stack & tilt pattern, but this is something you see in most good players. The idea is to keep the upper center (head) fixed, while sliding the hips forward, tucking the butt and raising the belt buckle. Dave explains it pretty well in the video.

Here is another one where he talk about the importance of extension through the swing. Getting this extension is very difficult if the head moves forward, as we can see on the video you posted Tom on hands ahead. It is a trap you can easily fall into. I've done something similar and it resulted in the same bad positions you get. Head forward and no extension or secondary axis tilt. Again, Dave explains it. Iacas also posted some pictures with lines drawn on swings of you, Charlie and Tiger which demonstrates how it looks.

[Th3R00st3r]

Man, i hate it when all the videos are removed..