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Ringworld Established Member

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Stance.  Grip.  Swing.  You can't get anymore basic than that.

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The Recreational Golfer Great Member

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That the grip might not be as important we we think it is, I'll leave to people who know more about the swing than I do. I will say, though, that the two guys I play with most often, one of them has a grip so weak it would make Ben Hogan blanch, and the other has an OK left hand, but his right hand is so strong it looks like it's trying to sneak up on the left from underneath. Neither of them hit the ball too very good.


Harmonious Great Member

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Originally Posted by The Recreational Golfer

That the grip might not be as important we we think it is, I'll leave to people who know more about the swing than I do. I will say, though, that the two guys I play with most often, one of them has a grip so weak it would make Ben Hogan blanch, and the other has an OK left hand, but his right hand is so strong it looks like it's trying to sneak up on the left from underneath. Neither of them hit the ball too very good.

Wonder how your friends would do with a more conventional grip?  I've seen guys like your friends, and wonder how they can look at the professionals on TV and never noticed that their grips are really out of whack (the friends, not the pros).  From a physical standpoint, very few of us can come close to a professional's swing, but we all have the capability of placing our hands on the club in a way that would help us hit the ball better.


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What is an AVID Golfer?  It's a golfer that plays more than 26 rounds per year.  I guess that's me!.

Nonono...... an AVID Golfer is the guy playing 26 rounds per month ....... I guess that's me!.

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The Recreational Golfer Great Member

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Originally Posted by Harmonious

Wonder how your friends would do with a more conventional grip?


The guy with the weak grip used to have one too strong for him, and one day I saw a beautiful neutral grip. I asked him if he had just had a lesson, and he said, "Yes, how did you know?" It improved things, but he has other swing issues, and a major aim issue, so the grip fix wasn't/isn't the total solution. Over the years his grip has drifted left of neutral.

The guy with the super-strong right hand is a self-taught golfer, aged ~55. He doesn't want to spend any money on lessons, he told me that once, so there's no hope for him.

For both of them, and for anyone, the grip isn't all you need to get right, but getting it right makes everything else easier to get right, and getting it wrong makes everything else that much more hard work. I know, you can play with a beaner grip, but golf is hard enough when you're trying to do everything right. So why create problems for yourself?

As for watching the pros on TV and learning from what you see, one must be a student of the game. These guys aren't.


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Originally Posted by The Recreational Golfer

As for watching the pros on TV and learning from what you see, one must be a student of the game. These guys aren't.

Well, hopefully they don't get mad when they hit bad shots.  Nothing worse than a guy who never practices, has terrible fundamentals, then constantly complains when he hits bad shots.


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I accept VISA, Mastercard or Paypal.


Can I get a refund .... yesterday it didn't work anymore ..... uhhhh .....

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Originally Posted by Gerald

Can I get a refund .... yesterday it didn't work anymore ..... uhhhh .....


Sorry. You didn't buy the extended warranty on my nuggets of swing enlightenment.  Had you done so, I would have shipped you a new swing, no questions asked, along with a brand new Nike golf bag. (Sorry, warbirdlover)

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I think I am going to preorder a set of MP-69 ....... doesn't care if I am punished for 40 bad shots, I will be rewarded for the few good ones !

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Guys - I gotta ask a basic question - does strong & weak grip refer to grip pressure ?      It would help me to know the definition of a strong vs. weak grip to digest what is being said here ... thx.

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Guys - I gotta ask a basic question - does strong & weak grip refer to grip pressure ?      It would help me to know the definition of a strong vs. weak grip to digest what is being said here ... thx.

[URL=http://www.andrewricegolf.com/2009/07/golf-grip-strong-neutral-or-weak/]Here you go.[/URL]

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Originally Posted by inthehole

Guys - I gotta ask a basic question - does strong & weak grip refer to grip pressure ?      It would help me to know the definition of a strong vs. weak grip to digest what is being said here ... thx.


No, it refers to the position of your hands on the grip. The stronger a grip is the more the V's formed by your thumb and forefinger of each hand will point to your rear shoulder. In a weak grip, they'd point closer to your chin.

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Originally Posted by inthehole

Guys - I gotta ask a basic question - does strong & weak grip refer to grip pressure ?      It would help me to know the definition of a strong vs. weak grip to digest what is being said here ... thx.

Here you go.



Great - thanks for that !!

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