HELP: Thinking of switching from CG1 tours to ap2 710s

[oneoverwrx]

Ok, super short notice but im getting fit today for new irons, I currently play cleveland cg1 tours with dgs300, standard l,l,l. I have been told by several people including club pro and other fitters that i need something 2* upright and i also want something that i can hit a bit higher.

Currently playing to a 4.6 due to some driver issues but that should soon come down to a 2-3 as my putting has really improved since last year.

OK...

More back info and my logic.... My current irons, cleveland cg1 tours. I hit them well but i really want something a touch more forgiving. A slight thin contact or slight toe contact will result in a 10-15 yds loss. I also really want to have a club that launches higher and have a club fit for me. One con i am concerned with is going from my current zip grooves to the v grooves. But if the face launches higher and i can get a high launch shaft maybe that wont be an issue. Reason for wanting higher flight is because my current flight is really bad low. I have trouble holding a full 7 iron on a green. What i have ended up having to do is hit a cut to get them to hold but this is a real pain when the hole doesnt set up for a cut. My 7iron carry distance is roughly 180yds. I am definately a digger. If the ap2s or even a 710cb launch higher with the proper shaft should  i order irons or try to change my swing  to get a higher ball flight.

Also anyone who has went from a blade to a more forgiving club please post comments and if it improved your game. I am concerned with not getting the feedback i do with my current irons. I am a little concerned with workability but im sure if tour pro play the ap2s then they must be workable. I am also concerned with the look at address. I love a thin topline but i would rather shoot lower scores than look down at a visually pleasing club.

Also any insight on the cb710 vs ap2 710 is welcome.

Sorry for the book, lmk your opinions.

[arogolf]

Forgiveness aside, have you considered reshafting your blades with a shaft that promotes a different ball flight?  AP2s seem so different and if you can hit your 7i that far, why give up the workability and look that you like?

[oneoverwrx]

The two clubs are quite a bit different that is why i also asked about the cb710. Im really wanting something a little more forgiving and something with a cavity will also promote a higher ball flight. I will deal with any loss in length.

I am also considering keeping exactly what i have and trying to learn to hit the ball higher.

If my current clubs were fit for me, lie and shaft, more than likley i wouldnt be so eager to switch but due to the fact that they arent i feel like i can gain some performance and have a set that is ideal for me.

[arogolf]

I think your last thought is correct re: fitting, especially for lie/length/shaft.  Maybe with a few minor tweeks to your current set you can see an improvement.  I just like the look of those clevelands...

[oneoverwrx]

I really like the look of them also. Was hoping for some insight on ball flight and workability. As well as groove comparo.

thanks.

[arogolf]

now i am intrigued re grooves and would like to see/hear a comparason also - are the zipgrooves conforming?

[oneoverwrx]

to my knowledge the grooves i have are conforming. They are what is currently offered in clevelands cg16 wedges as far as i know.

Now....the results/observations

Was hitting my cg1 6 iron approx 190 on a center contact. Off center hits were 20 or so yards shorter. And i really have a hard time judging the height but it was very low trajectory. Hit it on the board and we decided to try the 2* upright head. As far as lie goes he said it was close but he would go 3* and see where we were at but theres no 3* head in the cart. Shafts....hit a s300, x100, nippon(not sure which), kbs tour, and PX6.0.

All were alot higher than my cleveland irons with s300s. We decided the kbs tour was very very good for me. A close second in my mind was the x100. the ball flight was great but a bit lower than the kbs and slightly shorter. The nippon shaft was alright too, launched high but i perfered the feel of the kbs.

My sneaky pro decided to hand me a 710cb with the kbs shaft and wouldnt you know i pured 2 in a row. Not knowing the head was a cb, lol. Ended up hitting it about 10 times and my contact patch was a little too inconsistant so he still recommended the ap2.

I would say the higher launch not only gave me the trajectory i wanted but also gave me MORE length. Center contacts were flying 205-210 and slight off center hits were going in the 190yd area. I will be very excited to order these. Im not concerned at all with the spin anymore as my ball flight is atleast 50% higher than it was. I was still able to hit a light cut or a draw pretty easily, Feedback was almost nonexistent which is a bummer. Im sure it will become more detectable as i get used to the clubs.

Im still really wanting to hear from people switching from a muscle back to an iron like the ap2. Also anyone with experience with the kbs tour shaft.

thanks